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gtrp 10-30-2014 06:24 AM

Engine Block Heater
 
Googling didn't help too much, but are there any good engine block heaters for a 911sc so I can have things warmed up before going for a drive?

gtrp 10-30-2014 06:32 AM

Or an oil pan heater?

I'm just tired of cold start issues so figure if I never drive it cold, it'll go through a lot less wear

RedCoupe 10-30-2014 06:45 AM

If you are a DIY, you might be able to adapt a tank style heater to work in the 911 oil tank. Industrial supply stores might have something that would work, but it would have to be able to survive in hot engine oil. But, the bigger picture is what kind of temperatures does your car experience? Even those folks who live in the frozen North usually keep their 911's in garages that don't get all that cold. Multi-grade oil pumps well at pretty cold temperatures, so is there really a need for an engine heater?

gtrp 10-30-2014 08:00 AM

I'm in Texas and switched to 10w40 oil, but the car is still so sensitive before it's fully warmed up. Maybe I'm not just used to this car yet.

RedCoupe 10-30-2014 09:47 AM

Seems to me a tuneup and complete checkup of the CIS might be in order. A 911SC should be able to start up from cold and run well without being unusually sensitive.

ClickClickBoom 10-30-2014 09:53 AM

Preheat isn't a bad idea, but these cars were made in Germany for less than tropic conditions.
Idea:
Reiff Preheat Systems aircraft engine preheaters

gtrp 10-30-2014 10:09 AM

Thanks. I'm trying to retune it but it will still refuse to start some days when cold, other days it'll just stall at lights or bog while driving. When warm, it's a perfect quick car with no issues.

When I say cold, I mean a mere 60 degrees in the early mornings.

SC Eddie 10-30-2014 12:23 PM

jmo, it sounds like a issue in your start-up between your fuel and ignition. The cold start circuit (choke) isn't preforming properly.

kodioneill 10-30-2014 12:32 PM

A small space heater under the engine would do.

MJHanna 10-30-2014 12:39 PM

Not the best pictures but we put on in the race car it has an electrical plug that just pushes into the silver fitting.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414701468.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1414701489.jpg

porsche930dude 10-30-2014 12:41 PM

definatly a problem that needs looking into.

theiceman 10-30-2014 01:00 PM

Sounds like an issue that needs fixing. Get a set of guages and go through your CIS settings. sounds like cold WUR issues. especially if it bogs at a light. when cold .
fuel pressure may be wrong for driving conditons ( engine temp )

gtrp 10-30-2014 02:04 PM

Thanks everyone. I'm definately going to get a set of gauges bc I don't want to take any shortcuts but sometimes I find my entire garage empty and need the 911. Was looking for a good backup solution. MJHanna, that's very very interesting!

pete3799 10-30-2014 02:31 PM

Fix the starting problem........no need for an engine heater.

Ruaracer 10-31-2014 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete3799 (Post 8331430)
Fix the starting problem........no need for an engine heater.

I agree you have a cold start issue that needs to be addressed, but you can add one if you want to, put ours in to reduce wear on the engine during start up and helps get the engine temps up quicker for the race.

Inukshuk 10-31-2014 06:26 AM

60 degrees is cold? as above there are other issues

jmpowers 10-31-2014 08:59 AM

I've used this while living in KS. Works like a champ!

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boyt911sc 10-31-2014 10:01 AM

Fall Temperature........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gtrp (Post 8330919)
Thanks. I'm trying to retune it but it will still refuse to start some days when cold, other days it'll just stall at lights or bog while driving. When warm, it's a perfect quick car with no issues.

When I say cold, I mean a mere 60 degrees in the early mornings.





GTRP,

If you think 60°F is cold, wait till you get frost on your windshield and start the engine on the first try. I live outside Philadelphia where the climate is much colder than Texas. A properly tuned and maintained CIS engine would start regardless of weather. Check your fuel pressures (residual, control, and system) and any significant sources of air/vacuum leak if you want your CIS to run well. Keep us posted.

Tony

RedCoupe 10-31-2014 10:57 AM

CIS was used on Volvos for several years, so it was meant to handle Scandanavian winter temperatures.

boyt911sc 10-31-2014 08:05 PM

And some more.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RedCoupe (Post 8332594)
CIS was used on Volvos for several years, so it was meant to handle Scandanavian winter temperatures.

In the 80's CIS were also used in Mercedes Benz, Saab, BMW, etc.

Tony


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