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Lots of progress today. I managed to get out of work early this afternoon and take advantage of the sunlight. The past few nights I worked to scuff the entire underside of the car, wipe it down and tape it off. It was basically waiting for the time to spray the undercoating material on the entire chassis.

Today was the day.

I can now say that the undercoating is a good match to the topside color. There is the orange pop. The glow. The incredible tangerine color in the sunlight. Exactly what I was after.

First was the fenders. These were coated on the underside.




And then there is the chassis... I will let the pictures speak for themselves.








Here are the inside shots of the engine bay and frunk.






Now I can focus on the topside paint process. Yes... That means more sanding.
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Wowzers, this just keeps getting better!
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Super nice.. you've come a long way and the payoff is around the corner!
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Looks great Jamie...!!!
As u said get ready for sanding, standing and more sanding...
Just remember that the more sanding u do the better the paint job...
Not to get ahead of this great work and progress, but can u restate
What your engine and suspension plans r...?
Make progress every day...!!
Carry on... Bob
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I wish I had more current update this month. My work schedule and weather windows have not aligned. The car needs to go into high-build primer but I feel like I am loosing my Fall weather window to get the car painted.

Hopefully I can get a few warm days to shoot some paint...
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looks great...cant wait to see it in person!!
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Wow. It took me 3 days of stolen time at work to read this and I'm beyond impressed.
I also feel much better about the 1 year I have into my build and how far I haven't gotten.

Phenomenal work. A true inspiration.
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Wow. It took me 3 days of stolen time at work to read this and I'm beyond impressed.
I also feel much better about the 1 year I have into my build and how far I haven't gotten.

Phenomenal work. A true inspiration.
This stuff takes time.

X10.

Then double that!
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I have always taken the time estimate as the following:

Time estimate x 2 then move to next larger unit.

2 months takes 4 years. That is my track.
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I guess I missed Bob's question about engine and suspension a few posts back. I admit I Have not yet shared most of the build other than to say it was all coming from parts I have in the stash.

Build plan recap:

Engine Goals. High torque mid and upper range for street performance with full rpm capability.
3.0 base (81SC). Cross drilled crank and oil mods for longevity.
10.5:1 CR JE pistons. Usual lightening and piston crown dressing for hot spots.
Twin plug using my conversion adapters. 12 plug on 911SC distributor
Custom cam based on 7K redline
Full internal coatings for friction and thermal

I have 2 ideas for custom mufflers. Once the engine is fit to the car I can start assembling.

Induction will be my MFI stack based EFI system. Full vintage aesthetics with modern control. Will mostly look like a 72T engine from first glance. Its what lurks within that is most important.

The tub was reinforced to reduce flex and requires a firm, yet highly compliant suspension. Setup will be what I would call GT+. Firm enough to support the car but soft enough to enjoy the ride. We have a lot of rough to undulating roads in the TX Hill Country that do not favor board stiff suspension. Suspension setup designed to maximize car control in these circumstances. Suspension setup will be based on:
21/28 torsion bars. This is based on the match of projected wheel weight and Spring rate.
Rebel Racing Rear suspension bushings on stock SC adjustable spring plates
Elephant Racing Front Sphericals bushings on stock A-arms.
Reinforced steel cross member.
Koni Sport adjustable on 4 corners
Koni front struts with raised spindles (17mm for 15" wheels)
19mm F/R sway bars.
Will be aligned and CB to my specs.
Car will be low but ground clearance is key. Think Sporting stance. Not race track.
Will sit on 15x7 square tire setup. Maximize longevity through rotation. Yes, sidewalls are an important part of the suspension. I have 3 sets of wheels that will be different based on conditions from All Season through summer sticky.


It will all start coming together in the next few months.
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During our cold snap the other night I realized the weather window is rapidly closing to paint the car. So, I have a long list of parts to clean and organize. I might as well move on to another big project in the build.

The engine... My engine stand is currently on loan so I called a friend to borrow an unused stand. Not much longer I had the engine off the furniture dolly and on the stand.



Since I wasn't tired, I might as well start tearing it down. Not much longer I had a pile of parts. The heads and a few other items will be boxed and shipped off this week for machine work.



A pile of parts on the floor waiting to be organized must mean that I was really close to having a short block. Here you can see the 9.3:1 pistons hanging carefully on the rods.



I also confirmed that the cylinders are Nikasil. This is good as I can hopefully drop in a set of JE pistons once these are cleaned and measured.





The bottom of the engine was filled with oil residue. Not just the usual dirty oil in crevices, This was more like spoiled chocolate milk. Nothing like oil emulsion to brighten your day. I guess this engine got wet at somepoint in its life. No worries. This is exactly the reason I am tearing it down.




The following night I split the case. The inside is full of oil residue. It looks like the oil was not changed at any regular interval and it ran hot. You can see how brown the inside is. This will not be fun to clean out.



The main bearings look really good. The rod bearings... Not so much. I pulled the #2 rod and found lots of wear. Dirty oil? For sure.





Next step is to ship rods and crank to Ollies and heads to Craig Garr at G2 racing. I already have cams and rockers ready to go. The machine shop waiting game has begun.
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going to be one hell of a car when done!

...also, I just learned about a rental paint booth not far from my house. If you want to make a road trip over a long weekend let me know.
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Thanks Jay. I have not found any rental booths in the Austin Area. Weather supposed to be good next week... And I have time available...

Maybe by this time next week I can have color on the car. Of course, I have to get my act together.
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It seems the weather has finally cleared here in TX. Since it was warmer and the sun was shining I thought I could use the Thanksfgiving Holiday time to work on the car. We traveled to see family last weekend - and this means I have a few extra days to play. My wife agreed to allow some garage time and shoot some high-build 2K primer.

On Wed afternoon I blocked down the epoxy one more time and then put a layer of High-build on the fenders and doors. I am using the SPI 2K high-build primer. I only shoot the exterior surface and had carefully taped off the previous undercoating. After shooting I put the panels in the sun to cure. Surface temperatures in the sun were mid-70s. Cool enough to lay down smooth. Warm enough to dry fast and cure.






Not long after I was able to start blocking down panels. I use a mixture of long boards and stiff foam blocks to block down the panels. I sand every which way around all the curves and contours starting with 220 grit and ending at 400. This gives a nice smooth finish ready for sealer.

The primer sands with a slightly lighter color making it very easy to find the low spots. The high spots knock down quickly. Done right you start to get large islands of primer where you have sanded through the high-build and down to the epoxy. This is where I call it good.

And then the panel gets a guide coat and more sanding...

Here are the doors after block sanding. They are now ready for final sealer coat and paint.









Having more time available I moved on to the main tub. Tape it off and shoot 3 thick coats of primer.



I had some problems with my spray gun leaking, and dripping paint on the surface and this required a lot of elbow grease to sand out. At least this was on the primer layer that is designed to be sanded away.



Eventually the car starts to look like an oddly shaped dairy cow due to its modeled coloring mixture of background orange, gray high-build, white epoxy and a few ares where I went through it all to some filler. No worries, this all gets another layer of epoxy to seal it all up later.





Since the tub is "almost" ready for paint I have to make sure all the small parts are correct. This meant adding back in my layer of rocker shutz on the rockers. Get out the tape and paper and mask off a line. This was placed 24mm below the rocker panel to door seam. This was measured on another early car and is about right. I have seen some slightly higher but I am fine with this location.



It takes about 45 minutes to tape off the car. Then about 4-5 minutes to shoot the coatings and then another 15 min to clean up. Yes, I did install the torsion bar covers and fenders to make sure this all aligns. I am using Upol Gravitex and shot with a standard shutz gun. I just screw the supply cup to the gun. It goes on thick and flowy with a pebbled texture. I had black on the shelf so that's what I used. No worries, it gets white epoxy over it before paint.

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In between coats of primer, or I should say while waiting for primer to dry before I could sand I decided to spray out some color coats. I had bought a quart of color to test and make sure I liked the paint line.

I am using PPG single stage that my local jobber supply house has. It mixes well and is reasonably priced. The color certainly looks right in the paint mixing cup. I started with a half cup in my gun to see how much material usage.



The first spray out was panel backsides to check color. I started with the bumpers and liked what I saw. This is two coats. I am not planning to finish the backsides any more than this.





Then I moved on to the backside of the hood. The coremat section in the middle took a lot of paint to cover completely. The edges have good gloss and smooth finish. So far, so good.




Today I mixed up another small batch and hit the interior side of the doors...



I also prepped and shot the backside of the decklid...




The hood was ready except for final wipedown and I thought there was enough paint in the gun... So what can you do? Squirt some paint... This paint lays down nicely. Good gloss and smooth finish. And only a few small bugs.



After the paint dried I moved it inside to a warm garage. The color matches well with my underside coatings. I can't wait to have the tub all in one color!



There are always lots of questions about paint quality when shooting outside. This is a light reflection straight out of the gun. It is exactly the level of finish I want on the car. Not perfect but highly acceptable.



Hopefully before the weekend is out the entire car will be painted.

Then I can move on to wiring and suspension installation.
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