Please, critique my driving

rs911t · 06:47 PM

Guys,

Seems everytime I take my RUF to the track I end needing new tires. Damn, those things are expensive! So, last time out at the Nuerburgring I mounted my camera and shot some film, hoping you could help figure out what's eating my tires.

http://www.cowlishaw.net/~jim/video/RUF_Nuerburgring.wmv

Thanks for your help -

autobonrun · autobonrun's Garage

That has got to be the best personal video I've ever seen. I don't think there is anything wrong with the tires or the suspension. You just have the tires at their limit. Those four wheel drifts are murder on tires. I assume that was one lap of the Nurbergring?

Great driving on your part also. Now that is how a Porsche is meant to be driven!

surflvr911sc · surflvr911sc's Garage

Maybe if you mount the tires sideways they will last longer.

I have wood. That was so much fun to watch. Thanks.

PORSHIN · 10-17-2002, 06:58 PM

Here is my opinion of what I saw in the video: first, I can't imagine what could be causing the excessive tire wear, maybe you just need an alignment. Second it looked to me as if there was excessive speed and the friction coefficient of the tires, brakes, and clutch were being excercised to or slightly beyond their design capabilities. Overall, you appeared to be having way too much fun!
Rob

Stanley · 10-17-2002, 07:41 PM

There is also another video w/ the same car on the Nuerburgring here

http://www.lad.lv/~martini/porsche/default.asp?l=eng&Sub=3&SubSub=2

i know site has been posted before, but it has a LOT of video on it

feelyx · 10-17-2002, 07:46 PM

ummm... yeah.. your tire wear looks fine to me!!.

Tim in Sac

APKhaos · 10-17-2002, 07:48 PM

rs,
I liked your car better when it was green, and slightly less smokey.

BTW, are you joining us for the next NOVA run on 17 Nov ? Looking forward to seeing you car in the flesh - it looks gorgeous in the pics.

bell · bell's Garage

i'd be more concerned with changing my briefs than my tires

i have that on vhs........what a great video

nostatic · nostatic's Garage

rs, I think your tires would last longer if you didn't put them on a plane to Europe for use on another car

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

You see that's what I need to jazz up my race videos a bit... Loafers and a helicopter escort...

RatBoy4 · 10-17-2002, 10:16 PM

Sorry, I'm not critiquing your driving. Just telling you that the video looks superb! I love all the different angles!

rs911t · 10-18-2002, 02:37 AM

I found this copy at http://www.cowlishaw.net/~jim/video/video.htm while looking for 'Getaway in Stockholm' (another classic). Lots of other flicks also.

Tony, yes, I'll be there on the 17th. Looking forward to meeting other NoVa Pelicans.

Greg

Jim Richards · 10-18-2002, 03:33 AM

Greg, you're going much too slow

You'll need to pick up the pace to hang with the NoVA crowd.

jpachard · 10-18-2002, 04:01 AM

Ok, First off, excellent video!!! in regard to your driving, I have a few critiques. First, I think you are coming into the turns too hot. The reason I say this is that you are doing alot of opposite lock and correcting. This is causing you to scrub off speed by using the tires, thus the excessive tire wear. Remember slow in= fast out!!! Do you feel comfortable trail braking? This might help too. Second, foot to the floor at the apex!! This will relate directly to what I said before. The better the car is set up before the apex the more power you will be able to put down after. Seeing as you have a turbo, left foot braking would be another skill worth developing. This will allow you to keep the revs up while slowing down so you still have the turbo spooled up. Lastly, all this is working towards beeing SMOOOOOTH, remember you want to dance with the car, it's your partner and all inputs must be deleberate yet sesitive to your partners rythym. I hope this helps and best of luck.

Cheers, James

Mattias Hellore · 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by rs911t
Guys,

Seems everytime I take my RUF to the track I end needing new tires. Damn, those things are expensive! So, last time out at the Nuerburgring I mounted my camera and shot some film, hoping you could help figure out what's eating my tires.

http://www.cowlishaw.net/~jim/video/RUF_Nuerburgring.wmv

Thanks for your help -

This car is a RUF Yellow Bird CTR with Stefan Roser as driver, is that YOU?

edit: added a smiley

rs911t · 10-18-2002, 07:00 AM

Only in my dreams ....

JDaniel · JDaniel's Garage

I'm not sure what I'd rather have; the car or the abilty to drive it. That was impressive!

5axis · 10-18-2002, 08:48 AM

Irrationally exuberant

Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Nashua, NH USA
Posts: 981
Whenever someone points out that going sideways in not the fastest way, I think of an article in the Aug-Sept 1994 "Sportscar" magazine about the Ruf BTR 3.8. The driver was "Sideways" Stephan of Ruf video fame.

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After four runs the photographer is sure she has all the evidence and we decide to do likewise at Aremberg. Before we mount up again Trevor casually dropped in some advice: "I've told you before Chris, when you're sideways you're loosing time". I look to Stephan who was perhaps a Scandinavian rallyist in a former life and he smiles ruefully, as if to say 'yes, but when you are making love you're not always trying to make babies.
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Embs · Embs's Garage

WOW! For more posted footage like that, I may be convinced to send you tires! That was excellent AAA+++!

autobonrun · autobonrun's Garage

RS, I knew you were joking about the tires but thought you were serious about being the driver....Until I looked at your location.

That'll teach me from going straight to the video.