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bsimonson 02-27-2015 06:55 AM

First time engine drop - two questions
 
Hi,

I'm about to do my first engine drop on my '80 SC in order to have a look at my clutch. I have been able to disconnect most things without any drama but am currently stuck with two questions:

1) How do I disconnect the fuel return line at the rear left of the engine? I've had a look (and feel) at it but can decide which way I should turn it. I counter-hold on the smaller bit but I'm unsure if I should turn the spanner CW or CCW as seen from the side of the fuel line.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1425051922.jpg

2) In 101 projects they mention the reverse back-up switch that should be removed before dropping the engine. But as I plan to do both engine and transmission together, can I disconnect it when I separate them later on?

Thanks for reading,
Björn

Jesse16 02-27-2015 08:25 AM

If its me, I say you turn it CW, if you were on the left facing the end of the large nut. That nut is captured on the pc. to the right and is threaded the pc. on the hose.

gtc 02-27-2015 08:28 AM

As I recall, the reverse backup wiring comes out of the tunnel and plugs into the switch on the transmission with two bullet connectors. Just pop off the boot and pull out the wires. If you don't do this before you drop the motor, you'll tear the ends off the wires. Ask me how I know.

yelcab1 02-27-2015 10:12 AM

Leave the reverse back up switch alone. It comes down with the gearbox. The thing in the tunnel is the Speedo connector. You can undo the speedo sensor at the gear box, and leave that hanging.

tshebib 02-27-2015 10:22 AM

Put a wrench on that nut and lift up. Remember to hold the bracket on the right side of the nut as you are looking at it to keep it from twisting.

bsimonson 02-27-2015 10:48 AM

Thanks for the replies.

For the nut it seems we are at 1-1 regarding the direction, if I understand your comments correctly. Anyone else with experience from this?

Graham, I've disconnected the wiring in the transmission tunnel, but as yelcab1 wrote I believe that is for the speedometer.

Thanks,
Björn

rusnak 02-27-2015 10:54 AM

The bigger one looks to be the nut.

Disconnect all wires, including the reverse back up wires. Double and triple check ALL wires, hoses, cables, etc. Lower about an inch at a time, double and checking each time.

allaircooled 02-27-2015 11:04 AM

Maybe this pick will help. The motor this came off of is a 77 but I'm sure its the same.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1425067460.jpg

gtc 02-27-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsimonson (Post 8507904)
Thanks for the replies.
Graham, I've disconnected the wiring in the transmission tunnel, but as yelcab1 wrote I believe that is for the speedometer.

Thanks,
Björn

Ah, brainfart!

Alan Lindquist 02-27-2015 11:21 AM

I've done this a few times. IIRC the soft fuel line entering from left to right needs an 11mm open end wrench to hold it steady. Thinner body wrench makes this easier than a fat wrench. The larger section rotates to release the fuel line as if it were a cap nut, so you'd turn it counter clock wise to the fuel line.

In any case, you don't turn the soft fuel line. You lock it steady with a wrench across the flat spots.

bsimonson 02-27-2015 01:50 PM

Ok, still a bit confused.

Alan, when you say "CCW to the fuel line" do you mean to say that I should put a wrench on it and pull up or push down (from the perspective of either picture)?

allaircooled 02-27-2015 05:08 PM

ok I guess my photo didn't help. The nut is on the fuel line on the right, so to take it off hold the fuel line to the left still, put a wrench on the nut and pull wrench towards you.

yelcab1 02-27-2015 05:38 PM

It is right handed (normal) thread. That is all you need to know.

DRACO A5OG 02-27-2015 05:44 PM

+1 Righty Tight, Lefty Loosy.

BTW, those hoses look like they are ready to be swapped.

bsimonson 02-27-2015 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allaircooled (Post 8508406)
ok I guess my photo didn't help. The nut is on the fuel line on the right, so to take it off hold the fuel line to the left still, put a wrench on the nut and pull wrench towards you.

Well, it helped me to understand where the nut belongs but it could still have been a left handed thread. Although it seemed unlikely...

Quote:

Originally Posted by yelcab1 (Post 8508443)
It is right handed (normal) thread. That is all you need to know.

That was a good way to put it. Togheter with Chris' picture it takes away any doubt on how to approach it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRACO A5OG (Post 8508453)
+1 Righty Tight, Lefty Loosy.

BTW, those hoses look like they are ready to be swapped.

You are right, most of my lines are I think. Might be a another thing to do when the engine is out.

Thank you all for helping out! SmileWavy

bsimonson 03-01-2015 09:00 AM

Did a quick stop in the garage today and with some added confidence that I was doing it right I managed to get the nut on the fuel return line loose.

Posting a picture with the fuel line off for future reference.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1425232720.jpg


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