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DRACO A5OG 03-24-2015 09:36 AM

^^^ +1.

Also my OEM air compressor to fill a slow leaking flat. I also have a back up $25 from Pepboys in the garage. It saved me a tow truck call.

Daves911L 03-24-2015 11:24 AM

Wow!

It is always unpleasant to have such a thing happen. Makes a guy mad, especially when the result of stupidity or carelessness. But consider it another way.

This is just a thin piece of sheet metal lightly attached along the lower edge of the car. It could be easily removed and straightened by hand. Being textured the way it is, it wouldn't have to be arrow straight to look straight. Probably wouldn't even require repaint. Not a very noticeable area unless you put your camera down there at the curb. I could (and have) fix this myself in an hour. The oil line does not really look damaged, maybe scraped and just a little flattened at the bottom. Certainly not enough to cause a real problem. This sort of stuff happens. Its life. You could turn too sharp out of a drive and do the same. You wish it didn't happen, but it does.

Probably got the young kid in the shop fired. Just added an infinitesimally small amount to the overall pool of insurance claims, causing us all to pay a tiny fraction more. Reputation? Gee, I wonder why the other 99% of the world thinks Porsche drivers are prima donnas (or worse)! How about that repair shop milking this for $2500!

I guess I just see things differently. No doubt I'll get plenty of hate mail from this bunch.

Dpmulvan 03-24-2015 12:22 PM

Uh oh here we go

JJ 911SC 03-24-2015 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jose_JGC (Post 8544915)
+1. So they don't damage the body, the Fuchs or the lug nuts...

Or torque them at 140 lb + including the lock nut on a Cup Rim... and that was a PCA recommended garage :rolleyes::confused::rolleyes:

joe payne 03-24-2015 01:49 PM

If you live around Los Angeles you might want to check out Wheel Enhancement.
They know what's up, and they take great care of you.

yelcab1 03-24-2015 01:55 PM

I remove the wheels, put them into my station wagon, and drive them over.

I was fired as a customer when I complained to the Les Schwab shop. Eff them from now on.

J-Mac 03-24-2015 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daves911L (Post 8545212)
Wow!

It is always unpleasant to have such a thing happen. Makes a guy mad, especially when the result of stupidity or carelessness. But consider it another way.

This is just a thin piece of sheet metal lightly attached along the lower edge of the car. It could be easily removed and straightened by hand. Being textured the way it is, it wouldn't have to be arrow straight to look straight. Probably wouldn't even require repaint. Not a very noticeable area unless you put your camera down there at the curb. I could (and have) fix this myself in an hour. The oil line does not really look damaged, maybe scraped and just a little flattened at the bottom. Certainly not enough to cause a real problem. This sort of stuff happens. Its life. You could turn too sharp out of a drive and do the same. You wish it didn't happen, but it does.

Probably got the young kid in the shop fired. Just added an infinitesimally small amount to the overall pool of insurance claims, causing us all to pay a tiny fraction more. Reputation? Gee, I wonder why the other 99% of the world thinks Porsche drivers are prima donnas (or worse)! How about that repair shop milking this for $2500!

I guess I just see things differently. No doubt I'll get plenty of hate mail from this bunch.

Oh my. IMO this has nothing to do with Porsche owners being prima donnas. It has everything to do with not putting up with sub-par service. When is it ever ok to accept work that is performed so carelessly? The "this sort of stuff happens..its life" attitude only propagates poor service across the board. Do you work in or own a business? Is this level of service to your customers acceptable to you?

wildthing 03-24-2015 02:11 PM

I only bring my car to shops I already know have knowledge about my car.

It's one thing to wreck it yourself, it's another to have someone else do it for you.

DG624 03-24-2015 03:03 PM

You should also have a soft lug socket if you have nice lug nuts.

wes_r 03-24-2015 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daves911L (Post 8545212)
Wow!

It is always unpleasant to have such a thing happen. Makes a guy mad, especially when the result of stupidity or carelessness. But consider it another way.

This is just a thin piece of sheet metal lightly attached along the lower edge of the car. It could be easily removed and straightened by hand. Being textured the way it is, it wouldn't have to be arrow straight to look straight. Probably wouldn't even require repaint. Not a very noticeable area unless you put your camera down there at the curb. I could (and have) fix this myself in an hour. The oil line does not really look damaged, maybe scraped and just a little flattened at the bottom. Certainly not enough to cause a real problem. This sort of stuff happens. Its life. You could turn too sharp out of a drive and do the same. You wish it didn't happen, but it does.

Probably got the young kid in the shop fired. Just added an infinitesimally small amount to the overall pool of insurance claims, causing us all to pay a tiny fraction more. Reputation? Gee, I wonder why the other 99% of the world thinks Porsche drivers are prima donnas (or worse)! How about that repair shop milking this for $2500!

I guess I just see things differently. No doubt I'll get plenty of hate mail from this bunch.

You won't get hate mail from me. You have your opinion and I have mine. What we choose to do with our cars is our own business. We might see it differently, but that sort of stuff happens. It's life, right? :)

Flieger 03-24-2015 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DG624 (Post 8545518)
You should also have a soft lug socket if you have nice lug nuts.

Luckily my car is far from concours so I just use a normal deep 19mm socket. The soft sockets get broken so quickly if you aren't super, super careful, and sometimes even if you are. The hard sockets grip the aluminum securely, seems better than the soft sockets, so I think the lug nuts themselves are actually better off- it's only the paint that gets scuffed. And I've had the soft socket scuff them anyway.

manbridge 74 03-24-2015 06:05 PM

I use a thick zip lock bag or the like between socket and nut.

Can't believe some of these lifting nightmares. I had to rack an Audi R8 once. I wasn't about to GUESS at where the lift points were at.

jwakil 03-24-2015 08:58 PM

I hate to keep rubbing it in but one of the first things you read on forums when you start researching the air cooled cars is crushed oil lines due to bad lifting. I would never take my car to a tire place, just take the wheels.

And you should have let the shop pay. Your insurance is just going to jack up your rates. They will get that $2500 out of you eventually.

wes_r 03-24-2015 09:25 PM

Quote:

I hate to keep rubbing it in but one of the first things you read on forums when you start researching the air cooled cars is crushed oil lines due to bad lifting. I would never take my car to a tire place, just take the wheels. <br>
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And you should have let the shop pay. Your insurance is just going to jack up your rates. They will get that $2500 out of you eventually.
The manager never offered to pay - rather take it to the body shop next door. Might have done it if he hadn't shown zero concern for damaging the car. Didn't want to add insult to injury by getting jerked around further. I've learned in similar situations that being too accommodating can backfire.

Either way it'll be a subrogated claim so the shop will be paying. And as a comp claim, it shouldn't affect my rates - at least it hasn't in the past.


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