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s_morrison57 03-25-2015 06:04 PM

Heli-coil or Timecerts, what do you use & why
 
I'm getting ready for this operation and am more partial to the Timecerts but thought I'd ask the braintrust and get some opinions on the 2 types. Do you use one style over the other for all applications or is 1 better for aluminum/magnesium/cast pieces.
FYI I'm repairing threads in a Hewland side plate in a VW transaxle, it is for 1 of 2 bolts that hold an aluminum block that the rear calipers are bolted to.
Thanks

Finn

cgarr 03-25-2015 06:24 PM

How much material are you going into? If the wall is thin you might only be able to use a helicoil?

s_morrison57 03-25-2015 06:30 PM

At that point the side plate is about 1" thick and the threaded hole is about 3/8" from the edge. I wasn't aware that you needed a bigger threaded hole for the Timecert. Good point Craig - this is exactly the feed back/info I'm looking for.

Finn

cgarr 03-25-2015 06:52 PM

Don't quote me on this, I only use case savers but if you have a 10mm inside thread the time sert is 12mm and the case saver is 14mm outside


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diverdan 03-26-2015 08:15 AM

I am not a fan of helicoils. In your application, you might want to consider tapping for studs. I used to be able to even find stepped studs.

chris_seven 03-26-2015 08:58 AM

I believe that both Helicoils and Timeserts use an STI Tap.

The drilling size for these taps are:

M8 x 1.25 Insert - 8.3mm with a max diameter of the tapped hole being 9.8mm

M12 x 1.5 Insert - 10.3mm with the max diameter of the tapped hole being 12.13mm

I would use a coarse thread into both Aluminium of Magnesium.

Trackrash 03-26-2015 09:17 AM

Let me get this straight. This is one of the studs that holds on the diferential cover on a type one transaxle case made of magnesium? And it also supports the brake caliper?

If it were me I would have the hole welded up, drilled deeper, and re-tapped for a longer, deeper stud.

What car is this on and what do the pros do in this situation?

s_morrison57 03-27-2015 08:33 PM

its a Hewland side plate on a VW case on a Formula Ford


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