Fuel Lines by Len

[jjeffries]

These arrived via USPS just now. Mmmmmmm, they look good. Now I just need to install them. Thanks Len! John in CT

[porsche0nut]

How much? Are we allowed to ask? Thinking about ordering a set...

[CBRacerX]

They look great. Well done Len!

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Len does fantastic work. Here's a set of over the wheel oil lines he made for me. Carrera fuel line too.

[SoCalSK8r]

I need to do this soon as well. I'm interested in your installation, keep us posted.


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[NY65912]

Len is tops!

[allaircooled]

Sooner or later I want to move my fuel pump up front. This looks like the lines I would need for that, at least close to it.

I had Len make me the fuel line that goes between the fuel distributer and the WUR. Price was good and he did a nice job.

[universeman]

Gorgeous.

[onboost]

Originally Posted by jjeffries

These arrived via USPS just now. Mmmmmmm, they look good. Now I just need to install them. Thanks Len! John in CT

Very nice, I'm anxiously awaiting my package too!

I've got dome good stuff from him in the past as well.

[LEAKYSEALS951]

The hardest part of this process is gawking at them laying on the table.
They sit there, all nice and pretty... And you sit there knowing that you'll have to eventually bite the bullet and install them.
Mine sat for over a month before I realized they weren't doing any good hanging on the garage wall!
Oh- the agony!

[jjeffries]

Leakyseal is my (unknowing) hero and motivator for this job. As the former owner of a 944S2, those photos of his broiled 951 were too awful to look at. And when I acquired this car (82 SC) last summer, it was the corroded metal fuel line fittings which worried me most. I read Leaky's posts and learned who Len was, plus saw some oil lines he made for my fellow town resident Paul K's 930. The dye was cast.
For those interested, Len has made these hoses to go all the way to the engine bay, eliminating the corroded metal lines at the rear of the car, from the torsion tube back. John

[LEAKYSEALS951]

ah shucks!!!

[kidrock]

Another thumbs up for Len from another happy customer.

[jjeffries]

To those who have done this already, would you recommend pulling the rack to make the job easier (overall)? May sound like a ******* question, being that I am doing this with the motor/transaxle out, but I just went out to my 25F garage and that front end of the tunnel and tight fit of the original lines over the rack look rather unfriendly. This is my first 911, so haven't done this before; Bentley makes the rack removal look "somewhat easy". The real answer is most likely that given at the start of Leaky's thread of "don't over-think it", but over-thinking can be done indoors and not in a cold garage. Thanks, John

[mreid]

Removing the rack takes about 1/4 the time trying to install the lines with the rack in place takes. Even dropping the rack slightly allows you to rotate it slightly out of the way making the job easier.

I haven't had the pleasure of installing Len's lines on a porsche, but having fabricated many fuel lines for other applications his are a fantastic and professionally done solution.

[jjeffries]

Thanks MReid. I pulled the rack, took less than an hour., listening to the opera Carmen on NPR helped propel me. ( Not to sound glib.) Suppose I should clean and grease it while it's out. My car has A/C that the previous owner spent lots of money maintaining over the years, including a Griffiths upgrade. Those hoses going up to the evaporator unit mounted in the smuggler's box made this a tighter job (than if there was no A/C), but i gotta say the thought of some cockpit cooling sounds great to me. Reminder that I bought the car with the engine out for broken stud rebuild, so I've never driven it.
Access to fuel lines at front of tunnel now radically improved with steering rack out. I removed the metal lines from the tunnel lines at the rear bulkhead last night, so now should be ready to start the line replacement in earnest. But the garage is cold so I will quit while I'm ahead for the day and come back to this tomorrow. John

[ScottT80]

So where do you get these lines from Len?

[patkeefe]

I just got on this forum to search for methods to get the lines replaces, as I also have these nice new lines. Ironic that this thread was at the top. I'm guessing to pull them out from the front?

[dap930]

Pat,
Yes you would want to pull them out from the front of the tunnel. If you bought your replacement tunnel lines recently, Len supplies a coupler that allows the front of the new line to be attached to the back end of the old tunnel line at the rear of the tunnel. Then when the old line is pulled from the front, it drags in the new line. You will still need access to the tunnel access holes inside the car as the coupler tends to get hung up as it passes through. I removed the passenger seat, the center console, the shifter and the drivers side wooden floorboard to get the carpet up. There is a metal tab covered with plastic covering (like the metal tabs that hold the wiring harness in place) located at the forward end, inside the tunnel about where the gas pedal is, that needs unfolded back to release the two tunnel lines as they exit to the front of the tunnel (see below). The rubber grommets at the front and rear of the tunnel that seal the tunnel lines need removed (you will need replacements) prior to starting. I had my steering rack out for a rebuild which made the job easier, but it can be done with it in place if you love a challenge. the steering rack needs to go back in prior to attaching the new front rubber lines to the tunnel lines.

[patkeefe]

Thanks Dennis, I did find some other threads, but this seems straightforward. I have the running gear out, interior out and all lines are disconnected. Fuel pump is out, clutch and throttle cables are disconnected. Only the steering rack is in, and I need to change the tie rod ends anyway. Oh, I do have the couplers from Len also.