1974 911s

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Hello All,

I am new to this forum...

I am in the process buying this 1974 911S.
Needs your expertises, watch out things
I should know. Also, is this year and model
Good for future modification and investment?
What is today ave. Price range for this car?
I am looking at the car has about 140k miles and
Body Condition good but need repaint. Mechanic sounds
Good and strong with no grinding gear when shifting.

Thanks and appreciated your helps!
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Hi Pmax,

The owner said there is some rock chips if I want to repaint the whole car later on.

What is the Pros and Cons for this year and model?
It's a 2.7L motor. I don't know anything about this year and model.

Anyone, who has the same year and model provide some inside about this car will be greatly
appreciated.

[Jack Stands]

Since this car was built before Porsche started using galvanized metal, check carefully for rust. 74 was the last year of the traditional style exhaust, so that's a plus.

I'd agree that a PPI is the best money you can spend on this car.

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Thanks Jack,
I will inspect carefully on the body rust...Anything good about 1974 911s 2.7L engine and the tran.? Does this engine has cooling problem? Engine overheat?

[fanaudical]

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PPI = Pre-Purchase Inspection by a qualified Porsche mechanic. This particular vintage of 911 is prone to rust if not well-kept. The 2.7 engine is "highly variable" and is difficult for someone not familiar with these to determine condition. I strongly recommend finding a non-partial Porsche shop to evaluate this car for you. Be wary if the car's owner is not interested in participating in a PPI.

The picture you have clearly shows the back end of the car painted a different shade of white than the passenger door and front fender. This, to me, appears to be more than "rock chips". Has the car been wrecked and rebuilt?

Is maintenance history available for this car?

Someone once told me (and they were right!) to not buy a Porsche until I could afford two.

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Thanks Fanaudical,

The owner did said the car has some rock chips but
Body straight And fast never been in an accident before.
All Gear has no grinding, motor strong, and no rust.
He did said, will be nice to repaint it later.

He is selling to me for $24k OTD. I hope it's a good price and
I have agreed with the sell purchase agreement. Just keep my fingers cross.
I will test drive before final settlement on the car.
It's an 911s according to the Vin Number he gave me.
When I decode the Vin number. It's an 911s but not 911s US version
So I don't know what the different between 911s and 911s US spec.
911s spec. Said about 175hp and none "s" is about 150hp.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Chapter

Thanks Fanaudical,

The owner did said the car has some rock chips but
Body straight And fast never been in an accident before.
All Gear has no grinding, motor strong, and no rust.
He did said, will be nice to repaint it later.

He is selling to me for $24k OTD. I hope it's a good price and
I have agreed with the sell purchase agreement. Just keep my fingers cross.
I will test drive before final settlement on the car.
It's an 911s according to the Vin Number he gave me.
When I decode the Vin number. It's an 911s but not 911s US version
So I don't know what the different between 911s and 911s US spec.
911s spec. Said about 175hp and none "s" is about 150hp.

Thanks

If the engine is original, there will be no difference between the US and ROW versions of the S--they both would be 175 hp and have numbers 634xxxx, and type number 911/93.

To be a little more specific about your questions, the 74 is generally prized for a mid-year car because it did not have the heat producing emissions on the exhaust nor the 5 blade fan so the engine was not subject to extreme heat which often caused loosening of studs in the mag case.

As said before, these were not galvanized and rust will be a concern. Do not take a seller's guarantee that the car is rust free (unless he means he is not charging extra for the rust.) You need an expert on early cars to inspect the car, in person, to really determine the extent of any rust.

One other thing. The car appears to be low mileage which can be a good thing and a bad thing. If it is original and never been worked on, it still may be in very good shape but has not had the "upgrades" many 2.7 engine got--time certs for the head studs. The bad reputation of mid-year cars has been virtually erased over the years by the fact that most have been resolved through rebuilds. This may or may not apply to your car.

[Charles Freeborn]

The '74 is the best year of the mid-years. $24k is steep, but not if the engine has had it's head studs upgraded with time-certs, & the transmission has had it's synchros and sliders replaced. Then there's still suspension rubber and brakes to go through. At 140k miles it will need all of that, especially if you plan to drive it hard.
-C

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Thanks guys for your inputs.
I want to post more photos of the car but
I don't know how upload in this thread.
Can someone help me how to.

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[TheSt|G]

I'd say you get are getting in over your head.

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Some photos were taken from the owner.
The car looks pretty good and no rust underneath the body.
Can't wait to pick it up ��

[aoncurly]

The prices are rising, but I would say that $24,000 seems a bit on the high side. A respray is $5-10,000. Look at the Pelican Classifieds and look for a similar recent model and condition to get an idea on prices. Also go to Haggerty's web page which will give you a range based on condition. Get the PPI done and see what items need attention and use that to negotiate your price. Good luck.

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Price is a bit high comparison with others but owner said mechanically
this car is good, run strong, fast and body is straight no accident (very much) original) I am hoping the only fix I will do is Cosmetics and repaint job. Price is raising make me can't afford them anymore if I continue to wait ��.

[TheSt|G]

Originally Posted by Chapter

Price is a bit high comparison with others but owner said mechanically
this car is good, run strong, fast and body is straight no accident (very much) original) I am hoping the only fix I will do is Cosmetics and repaint job. Price is raising make me can't afford them anymore if I continue to wait ��.

From your own admission, you are essentially clueless about 911s and are rushed about buying a car that you yourself say is overpriced and from the pictures clearly led a rough life.

Walk away now. If you can't afford a nice one, you reallly can't afford a cheap one.

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Thanks TheSt!G.

[Tim K]

I would take a close look at the passenger-side front corner. It looks like the bumper bellow is distorted and the fender/door gap is pretty tight. Possible front end collision?

Tim K

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Hard to tell from
The angle of the photo was taken.
I haven't see the car I person yet to determine.

[74-911]

The two main issues with the 2.7L engines are pulled head studs and worn valve guides. If you have pulled head studs, I suspect you are looking at a $10K+ for a complete rebuild and probably 1/2 of that for new valve job by the time the "while you are in there" $$ are added in. I'm sure some others can give you more exact figures but neither is an inexpensive fix.

A lot depends on where and how they were driven. If driven hard in the hot weather states the problems are much more likely, i.e. my valve guides were shot at 80K miles. No sign of pulled studs but I went ahead and had a full rebuild done with time certs, etc. Having the 11 bladed fan and no thermal reactors '74s are less prone for the above problems but certainly not immune. This was in 1989 so what I paid then for the rebuild has no relevance today.

Do yourself a big favor... at least have a PPI done on the engine and have a careful inspection done for rust else you may really regret not having done so.

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Thank you Jack for the info.

I have 930 88' and 993 97' both are great cars
And looking to add this 74' to the family
But what I heard so far let me a big concern on buying this car now.

Hmmmm.....��

[74-911]

Originally Posted by Chapter

.....But what I heard so far let me a big concern on buying this car now.

Hmmmm.....��

A good PPI will help solve the riddle... don't blow it off because of what might be wrong with it. It may be a great car?? I personally really like the '74 and mine is just a base 911 with the "S" suspension upgrades.