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moparrob 07-05-2015 07:15 PM

How to tell difference between trailing arms?
 
I bought a twin turbo wide body conversion (based on a 1975 911) with some pretty aggressive suspension modifications and I am trying to figure out if the rear trailing arms are the stock 1975 pieces or something more stout.

Are there any easy visual ways to tell the difference from underneath the car?

Also, the front end seems to 'clunk' over bumps in the road - very unlike my 911 SC. I have coil over shocks in the front. Is this noise indicative of mono ball or other race suspension?

Thanks for the help.

jbell959 07-05-2015 07:56 PM

All the aluminum rear trailing arms from 74-on are basically the same. So unless they swapped them out for 930 trailing arms they wouldn't be more stout than stock. To install 930 trailing arms would require changing the torsion tube or relocating the mounting points. If you have 930 rear arms the brake caliper would be mounted on the back of the rotor and with the standard trailing arms the caliper is mounted on the front.

Matt Monson 07-05-2015 08:03 PM

If the '75 was a Carrera it would have come with turbo trailing arms.

group911@aol.co 07-05-2015 08:53 PM

See if the brake mounts are forward or behind the axle line.

Charles Freeborn 07-05-2015 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbell959 (Post 8697895)
All the aluminum rear trailing arms from 74-on are basically the same. So unless they swapped them out for 930 trailing arms they wouldn't be more stout than stock. To install 930 trailing arms would require changing the torsion tube or relocating the mounting points. If you have 930 rear arms the brake caliper would be mounted on the back of the rotor and with the standard trailing arms the caliper is mounted on the front.

Not true. The '74 had ball type drop link mounts. Later SC have bolt on drop links.
-C

boyt911sc 07-05-2015 10:28 PM

Trailing arms.........
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 8697948)
Not true. The '74 had ball type drop link mounts. Later SC have bolt on drop links.
-C



Charles,

You are correct. The '74-'76 CIS cars have the ball type drop link mounts. While the '78 SC and later have the bolt on drop links.The cars in the garage are '77S, '78 SC, and '89 cabriolet.

Tony

RL technical 07-06-2015 01:57 AM

Talking about a clunk or thud, it is most likely the firewall (oil canning) I'm going through the same drama in my hot rod 77 coupe with mass suspension work, my car being rhd and non boosted the firewall flexes, I'm thinking of putting a dimple in it to slightly compress the sheet metal.

pors1968 07-06-2015 02:37 AM

There a part number and date on trailing arm should be easy to know what you have.

javadog 07-06-2015 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 8697904)
If the '75 was a Carrera it would have come with turbo trailing arms.

Ahh, I don't think so...

JR

jbell959 07-06-2015 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charles Freeborn (Post 8697948)
Not true. The '74 had ball type drop link mounts. Later SC have bolt on drop links.
-C

My statement was absolutely true in answering his question. He asked if his suspension was more stout not if he had early or late aluminum trailing arms.

Matt Monson 07-06-2015 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 8698093)
Ahh, I don't think so...

JR

My apologies. It was late and I was thinking of the later M491 turbo looks.

moparrob 07-06-2015 08:08 AM

Thanks for the info. I will check caliper placement tonight.

Also, the clunk is definitely in the front end. If it was an old muscle car I would say the ball joints were worn out - same type of sound.

group911@aol.co 07-06-2015 08:10 AM

Also, the part number will be cast on it

Charles Freeborn 07-07-2015 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbell959 (Post 8698168)
My statement was absolutely true in answering his question. He asked if his suspension was more stout not if he had early or late aluminum trailing arms.

I agree that neither is likely stronger than the other, but I've never sawn one of each in half to see if the wall thickness is different (more or less stout) But for the sake of clarity and interchangeability they are not the same. The later SC rear suspension used a heavier swaybar, which is also not interchangeable with the earlier style suspension.

Ironically the earlier CV's are larger and stronger than the later SC era joints, and to switch out to the SC trailing arms on my '74, I also had to change the output flanges on the transmission to accommodate the SC CV's.

Here's the write up on my rear suspension re-build:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/821403-were-off-74-rear-suspension-rebuild.html

-C


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