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silverc4s 11-18-2002 06:09 AM

Sequential manual gearboxes
 
So, Porsche has had versions of automanual gearbox, used in racing vehicles for many years. Called PSK, or PDSK something like that, correct?

I am wondering why everyone has now beaten Porsche to the marketplace with a F1 or SMG-type gearbox? Anybody have input, or information, here??

Ferrari F1, Maserati, BMW M3, Toyota MR2, etc... is what I am talking about - NOT a automatic with tight shifting re: Tiptronic, etc...:cool:

HawgRyder 11-18-2002 07:08 AM

Sequential gearboxes have been around for decades...in motorcycles.
The idea of putting a cam operating sector next to the fingers is not new...just delayed or re-discovered by the auto crowd.
In extreme cases like the Scott....it had 11 speeds in the main gearbox...and a hi-low transfer case behind that.
A true sequential would shift 1-2-3-4-5-6-1.
There would be no stop at the high end.
Bob

Neilk 11-18-2002 07:43 AM

Bill, Bill, Bill...what a stupid question....just kidding

because Porsche is Porsche and only the Porsche way is the right way.

Because our customers are still buying our cars without it.

Because we spent all our R&D on a SUV

Because we have no racing program to test new technologies. (BMW and Ferrari perfected their SMG in F1).


On a happy note, it is rumored that the next 911 will have a SMG.

CamB 11-18-2002 12:32 PM

It appears to be because they don't want to - Ruf has been putting clutch pedal-less gearboxes in its cars for years (since early 90s, I think).

Note clutch pedal-less - not sequential. Sequential is another thing on top of this.

boyo 11-18-2002 02:01 PM

A shift pattern of 1-2-3-4-5-6-1???

"The experience driver will remember he's in 6th gear...the inexperienced driver will be sweeping engine and transmission parts off the road after revving to 20K RPMs..." :o

-Boyo

silverc4s 11-18-2002 02:33 PM

Boyo-
I think that sequential designed gearboxes top out at 6, not roll over to one. Like a motorsickle, you know...SmileWavy

Cam -
I hear you, but I still don't get Porsche's strategy (or lack thereof) here...they have the GT2, and twin turbo cars to keep moving up the price ladder with the Italians - why no Automanual? Damn, we likely would never be able to retro fit the technology in our old tubs anyway, guess I'll have to get an M3 if I want to play with one of those...:cool:

widebody911 11-18-2002 02:52 PM

Re: Sequential manual gearboxes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by silverc4s
I am wondering why everyone has now beaten Porsche to the marketplace with a F1 or SMG-type gearbox? Anybody have input, or information, here??

The Ferrari 360 Modena has the F1-type gearbox with paddle shifters hanging off the back of the steering wheel.

CamB 11-18-2002 02:57 PM

I guess the R&D (or talking Getrag into making it) was going to be too much effort (ie for a gearbox for a flat six).

That said, Ferrari managed.


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