Survey ,sell the 88 911 and get a 95-96 993?

[juan ruiz]

Question is ,should i sell my 88 911 carrera turbo which is just been painted and back out of the future plans of making 500Hp insteed get a 993 and start all over what will you do?

[Mark Howard]

That's what I did! Got the 993 today and the '88 Carrera is up for sale.

The 993 really is an improved driving experience.

mh

[juan ruiz]

Mark,congratulations if you were to compare the two what things can you feel are the biggest differences? if you can copare car by car ?
Thanks Juan

[Mark Howard]

Well, if you only limit me to TWO things, has to be the feel of shifting the 6 speed trans and the brutal acceleration. The trans has a great feel to it, not wimpy but a good solid "I'm here to stay" feel. No grinding or missed gears, and top gear is great on the highway.

I've been around a few cars in my 33 years, this car is fast....really fast. The 3.6 comes to life at ANY speed and will throw your ass back in the seat like you wouldn't believe.

Other things seem to "fit" better and are smoother. Steering is wonderful, and for a south Louisiana boy, the A/C is really nice.

I could go on, but I have to go to the garage to stare at my car again!!

mh

[emcon5]

Juan, From reading your posts here for the past year or so, I think I am pretty safe in saying I know what you are looking for in a car: Brutal acceleration.

With that in mind, I think the most bang for your buck is a really powerfull engine in a fairly light car. If I were you, I would start looking for a 930, or at least a 930 engine for a transplant. A gentleman posted to Rennlist a few days ago about his 78 930, tweaked by www.ImagineAuto.com to 441hp. Took it to the local drag strip and ran low 12's, best was a high 11 @125.

You have a nice car, but a car that has been in a major accident, and with an aftermarket turbocharger. A lot of buyers will shy away from it. You may get good money out of it, but I would not count on it. According to KBB, a rough 1995 993 will wholesale for over 30K, and retail for over 40K. If you get 25K for your car, it will still cost you a lot more for probably a little less performance (acceleration) than you already have (not to mention higher licensing fees, insurance, etc).

If money is no object, get the 993 and put the supercharger on it from the Excellence article a couple months ago.

Just some thoughts,

Tom

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82 911SC Coupe

[pwd72s]

Not trying to slam anybody here. But if "brutal acceleration" is the goal, why buy a P car at all? Hell, my old GTO by Pontiac, after some cheap by today's standards modifications, would blow by a new 996 Twin Turbo...but only in the 1/4 mile...
Of course, I didn't think the modifications I did those decades ago were cheap...not then. 4:11 positrac gears, 426 instead of 389, hillbourn injection, timing chain instead of plastic gears, roller rockers, solid lifters, heads flowed, just those and a few other small mods...got boring after a while..then I drove my first Porsche...

[juan ruiz]

Tom,Thank you very much and you nail it in the head,the problem is i have never been partidary of any type of transplants to me is just to much hassle and to much pain so i stay away from them all together, i always try to move up and a 78 engine regarless of how new is, still a 78 so i feel that i be going in the wrong direction, but rather that going thru all this i may consider another brand of car i don't need a king of the corner car like a porsche,so i will think about this real good,but thanks for the advice.

[Kurt B]

Originally posted by Mark Howard:
Well, if you only limit me to TWO things, has to be the feel of shifting the 6 speed trans and the brutal acceleration. The trans has a great feel to it, not wimpy but a good solid "I'm here to stay" feel. No grinding or missed gears, and top gear is great on the highway.

I've been around a few cars in my 33 years, this car is fast....really fast. The 3.6 comes to life at ANY speed and will throw your ass back in the seat like you wouldn't believe.

Other things seem to "fit" better and are smoother. Steering is wonderful, and for a south Louisiana boy, the A/C is really nice.

I could go on, but I have to go to the garage to stare at my car again!!

mh

Hahahahah...hilarious Mark. I envy you, but the kind of evaluation you're giving the car is Exactly the kind of evaluation a potential buyer needs. What will I feel when i drive it, and how many hours will I be sat in a chair staring at it!

[emcon5]

Here is another idea, probably still less money than a 993, and faster too.

The page is from the now out-of-business Paul Weir, but the Supercharging of Knoxville information should still be correct.
425 HP @ 4700 RPM, 385 LBS Torque @ 4000 RPM

http://www.paulweir.com/rebuild/whipple.html

or 345 HP@ 6200 RPM, 337 LBS Torque @ 4300 RPM

http://www.paulweir.com/rebuild/paxton.html

[juan ruiz]

Encon ,thanks for the information but i spend almost you years reasearhing turbo vs supercharger,i choose turbo,to get the good numbers from those superchargers you have to go inside the engine for that kind of money i do the same with the turbo and still have room to grow,even if you copare the lowest one vs mine 320hp,.5 boost(not much) installed for $4999,i really dont think knoville can do better than that.Funny i have all the inf.here from 2-17-99 it goes
345 HP $4,795
options external oil cooler $350
Modify impeller $350
Serpentine pully kit $690
You must install a turbo tail $700 if lucky
A/C to be relocated $ ?
The 425 Hp
With standar intercooler $12,500
Large intercooler $13,500
THIS DO NOT COVER INSTALLATION!! $????
So as you see the numbers dont lie.
so if you take my 4999 and add another 5,000
is around 10,000 and 485 to 550 hp.
Just to compare.
regards juan

[addictionMS]

I have an 1988 Carrera and a 2000 996, and if I had to part with one, it would be the 996. I love the car, but it costs a lot more to run, is harder to fix, and is easily replaced. My 1988 is cheaper, gets better gas mileage, I can fix it, is fun to play with and my investment is low enough that I take it to the track more often than the 996. But if you can afford the newer car and still not worry about repair and replacement costs, go for it.

[emcon5]

Juan, Do you have any details on your turbo conversion? What all was involved? You mention 320hp, is that from a dyno, or an extimate?

Thanks,

Tom