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Doug Zielke 11-21-2002 04:06 PM

Rebuild P-motor yourself? No problem!
 
Well, it is compared to fixing home appliances!!
When I should be happily bolting the Blue Bomber's 3.0 back together, I am instead trying to fix our clothes dryer.
It is shakin' the house so bad, I thought it might fall into the basement!

This model is a G.E., and while I have a lot of respect for the quality of their industrial products, this dryer is typical of household appliances.... *crap*, put together with sheet metal screws, and wired worse than a junior high science project.

Will I get it fixed? Maybe by mid-nite.
Will there be any parts to fix it? Probably not.
It's only 10 years old; my SC is almost 22 and I can get *everything* for it. Sheesh!!!

Gotta go...I can hear our cats are scattering 250 efin sheet metal screws all over the floor!
:mad:

Jim Sims 11-21-2002 06:21 PM

I hear you man. Rebuilt our GE gas dryer after only 3 years of use; drum bearings had failed due to bad design. New parts had revised better design but cost over a $100. Changed belt and some other bearings while I was in there. Yes, the design is made for minimum initial cost not ease of repair. A good source of parts is www.repairclinic.com in Michigan; you can wait weeks getting them through local sources. A few weeks ago the transmission in our 4 year old GE washer (top of the line) began to fail. Parts and tools required will be around $250; I said no way was it worth it. Bought the wife a Maytag Neptune last weekend. No more GE junk for us. I'd rather work on Porsches. Jim

Drago 11-21-2002 08:54 PM

Re: Rebuild P-motor yourself? No problem!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Doug Zielke

Gotta go...I can hear our cats are scattering 250 efin sheet metal screws all over the floor!
:mad:

I can personally vouch for Doug's cats. They are effin' bastards. Almost took my leg off whilst releaving myself during the "Drop Party".

Hope your home-maker engineer project goes as planned, Doug.

DonDavis 11-21-2002 10:19 PM

Easy on the GE bashing. :D
Actually, I work for GE.....Medical Systems.

We have Amana washer/dryer and GE kitchen appliances. They do well with 'fridges and stoves but I've never heard good things about their laundry room stuff.

Besides, I get KILLER deals on GE crap. That way I can but some P-car crap.....er, stuff.

Wayne 962 11-22-2002 01:11 AM

"How to Rebuild and Modify Your GE Washer" - Coming December 2004. It should be out by the time you get your Engine Rebuild book in the mail...

-Wayne

tryan 11-22-2002 02:58 AM

you have to quit drying your pcar parts in the dryer. i hate nafda. or is that nafduh.

no offence to south of the boarder, but my two year old jenn air/amana fridge has had every electrical component replaced already.

the neptune stuff is worth the investment. the guy that owns the local laundy mat upgraded and he says he saves enough in water and power to pay for them.

magilla 11-22-2002 03:19 AM

Wayne, That's pretty funny. I snarfed my coffee.

jhelgesen 11-22-2002 04:03 AM

Any carbon fiber parts available for my Kenmore dryer? Figure it could boost the efficiency and dry the clothes in half the time. Maybe it needs a turbo?

osidak 11-22-2002 04:35 AM

Have a GE dishwasher. The bushings in the motor died after 4 years. While I was trying to figure out what was wrong with it I noticed two houses down from me had thrown out their dish washer which was the same make and model as mine. I pulled parts off of it to fix mine.

I fully expect to be replacing my dishwasher in the next year.

Jim Sims 11-22-2002 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonDavis
They do well with 'fridges and stoves but I've never heard good things about their laundry room stuff.
Look up the GE rotary refrigerator compressor disaster of a few years back. The bean counters and technical analysts overrode the judgement of the hardware test guys (they're only lowly technicians). Cost the company over $500 million in warranty repairs; our made by GE refrigerator received $500 worth of these free warranty labor and parts. Jack's boys and girls really came through on that one. Thomas Edison was probably generating AC electricity in his grave after that episode. Cheers, Jim

bigchillcar 11-22-2002 05:30 AM

Who wants to wear dry clothes?! I mean...I'm not alone on this one am I...?!:eek:
:D
Ryan

DavidH 11-22-2002 05:33 AM

I too used to work for the General. 18 years of brainwashing finally wore off, 3 year sabatical, now working for a GE competitor (Power Generation not Appliances). I'm sure someone did a six sigma project on this design.
Oh by the way, Whirlpool makes a great washer/dryer. Duet Series. ;)

silverc4s 11-22-2002 06:54 AM

On a more positive note, when my GE refrigerator's plastic shelving brackets cracked, (too many beers on one shelf...) I was able to locate my frig on their WEBSITE, find exploded drawings, ORDER the parts with a massacard, and have the CORRECT PARTS shipped to my hacienda in 3 days!!!
I was impressed...:cool:

PS: I am not now, and have not ever been employed by the General, honest to gosh..

RickM 11-22-2002 07:31 AM

We should all wake up and do what the Japanese and Europeans do....sell All-in-One Washer/Dryer units.

thamlin000 11-22-2002 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DavidH
I too used to work for the General. 18 years of brainwashing finally wore off, 3 year sabatical, now working for a GE competitor (Power Generation not Appliances). I'm sure someone did a six sigma project on this design.
Oh by the way, Whirlpool makes a great washer/dryer. Duet Series. ;)

The Duet is great, but the Kenmore HE3T set is a bit better. Both sets will save you upwards of $100 per year in utilities. In terms of laundry, Whirlpool and Kenmore (same same thing thing) are the best, IMHO.

Selling appliances gets me through college and feeds my p-car.

david lipman 11-22-2002 12:33 PM

my refrigerator works great, and its a General MOTORS (Fridgidare)

from the 50s/60s, came with the house.

Superman 11-22-2002 01:07 PM

GE was good laundry stuff 30-40 years ago. Not now, though.

We replaced a very old range a few years ago because certain parts (two stovetop burners, for example) did not work. We immediately noticed that the new one was more cheaply made, thnner sheet metal, and had no character like the old one. Lately, I was thinking that it might have been better to re-fit the thing with modern parts. I think this could be a good business. Classic sytling, higher quality, with modern circuits.

stormcrow 11-22-2002 02:02 PM

1 Attachment(s)
"How to Rebuild and Modify Your GE Washer" - Coming December 2004. It should be out by the time you get your Engine Rebuild book in the mail...

-Wayne

Here's a start

Steve

david lipman 11-22-2002 02:06 PM

naahh,

you gotta let the Maytag Repairman write the book. Remember, he has nothing else to do!

Doug Zielke 11-22-2002 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wayne at Pelican Parts
"How to Rebuild and Modify Your GE Washer" - Coming December 2004. It should be out by the time you get your Engine Rebuild book in the mail...

-Wayne

ROFL! :D

.....And BTW, Don Davis, no GE bashing here (except for their home appliances). General Electric make some of the best H.V. switchgear on the market. I specify it for many jobs I do for utility and commercial customers.

DonDavis 11-23-2002 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by silverc4s
when my GE refrigerator's plastic shelving brackets cracked, (too many beers on one shelf...)

Well, I see your first mistake.

The beer goes in the crisper. That way, when your buddies come over, they open the fridge, see you have no beer and the 'bounty' is safe and sound.:D :D

gosla 11-23-2002 06:32 AM

Vintage Porsche Lovers with Modern Appliances???
 
Hello;

In my opinion, vintage appliances are like vintage cars... A lot of reasons to go that way versus new models... The new ones may have neat electronics, but quality usually drops...

I use a pair of vintage Maytags which I purchased used. They look like they just were unboxed, but are around 30 years old. No problems whatsoever...

My kitchen sports a 1937 General Electric monitor top refrigerator, all original, still working perfectly. I will use a 1957 General Electric range, also perfect, until I get the parts to modify my 1931 gas range to run on city gas. Sinks from 1890... No complaints... Microwave??? A 1981 Radarrange, all chrome, with a touch sensitive glass screen... It might not have a microphone that picks up when the popcorn is done, but it's built to last... It's door is heavier than most contemporary large microwaves... Enough power to lock up the local cellular phone towers if I would bypass the safety interlocks... ; )

Newer generally means "not as good as older..."

Now, if I could only figure out how to get my hands on a GT2... lol



Vlad the Impaler
Hazleton, Pennsylvania USA

Doug Zielke 11-23-2002 06:37 AM

I hear ya, Vlad, but I'd have a rebellion on my hands if Mrs. Z had to have 40 year-old appliances in *her* kitchen.
:D

rfix'n 11-23-2002 07:25 AM

And with power rates the way they are, the energy savings will pay for a few repairs over the appliances lifetime.

Doug Zielke 11-23-2002 09:20 AM

UPDATE!
 
I'm soooo proud of myself, I did manage to fix the dryer. Even found a store with all the parts I required. It is running smoothly as I type this. Success in the domestic arena! Victory over 250 sheet metal screws!

Almost forgot.....I only lost about a pint of blood during the whole job, and just pinched my fingers once! I should be all healed up in no time, ready to continue work on the Blue Bomber.

:D

Jbabic 11-23-2002 10:06 AM

As a GE aircraft engine employee, I am glad that our engines are the same as our appliances...our stock would be worthless...then again...it's already getting that way

Jbabic 11-23-2002 10:07 AM

I didn't know GE had competition....at least in the power generation field....

Moses 11-23-2002 10:23 AM

Doug,

When I repaired my GE dryer, I installed a cool collar on the exhaust vent. My clothes dry in half the time.

gosla 11-23-2002 07:50 PM

If Ferdinand Porsche Made a Refrigerator...
 
Hello;

Not sure about the energy savings thing... The old "monitor top" refrigerators actually use less electricity than the new models. They are super-over built, and assuming they are in good condition, very well insulated.

They have no fans, no defroster (heat cycle) circuts, a small freezer space that actually provides cooling to the interior of the refrigerator. My model, made by GE is actually considered to be the most reliable refrigerator ever made... All of the parts that heat up are at the top, not making the unit work against itself like a lot of modern designs.

If Ferdinand Porsche built a refrigerator, it would be the GE Monitor Top...

What a surreal post for a Porsche board...





Mahatma Ghandi
Hazleton, Pennsylvania

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masraum 11-23-2002 08:24 PM

This place, http://a-1appliance.com/ , kicks butt!! I';ve ordered parts from them in the past. Not only that, but the last time I looked (granted quite a while ago) you could post symptoms on a bulletin board or maybe it was an email form, either way, they would tell you what the problem likely was whether you ordered their parts or not. I did because they were cheaper than anything around here.

ChrisBennet 11-24-2002 06:17 AM

Re: Vintage Porsche Lovers with Modern Appliances???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gosla
Hello;

In my opinion, vintage appliances are like vintage cars... A lot of reasons to go that way versus new models... The new ones may have neat electronics, but quality usually drops...

Microwave??? A 1981 Radarrange, all chrome, with a touch sensitive glass screen... Vlad the Impaler
Hazleton, Pennsylvania USA

1981 Radarrange? I suppose if you like that newfangled stuff. Mine's a 1978 with two knobs. :D
-Chris

RoninLB 11-24-2002 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by masraum
This place, http://a-1appliance.com/ , kicks butt!! I';ve ordered parts from them in the past. Not only that, but the last time I looked (granted quite a while ago) you could post symptoms on a bulletin board or maybe it was an email form, either way, they would tell you what the problem likely was whether you ordered their parts or not. I did because they were cheaper than anything around here.
thanks Steve... got a Magic Chef w/the warmer next to the oven in a seperate cabinet.. the sucker doesn't fire the oven.. I got a pilot lite that works.. so going after the oven control nob soon. and it looks "60s heavy duty for a home.......Ron


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