Enamel or base and clear paint,1971 911.

[spudboy]

Restoring the car to original paint color and looking for opinions of what paint to put on the car. I only want to do this once. Thanks for the input.

[Dpmulvan]

Glasurit 22 line

[Jose_JGC]

^agree 100%. Single stage Glasurit was used when these cars were painted at the factory. I had my 1970 911T painted 3 years ago with Glasurit line 22 and I am very pleased. I spent 3 liters of that paint and 1 liter of Glassurit line 22 hardener. The underside of the car , interior, trunk and engine bay were painted with another brand single stage paint matched to the same color.

[Bob Kontak]

Three types of enamel. Alkyd, acrylic and urethane.

Urethane is the most advanced and all three were used with hardener. (this info is from the paint and bodywork board)

Your only real choice, which the above guys did not tell you, is to use Glasurit 22 Line. Single stage urethane with hardener.

[Ronnie's.930]

Bob forgot to mention that were the car located in TexAss, and painted with something non-urethane, it will start to go flat in about 6 months even if it only sees sun a few days a week.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Bob forgot to mention that were the car located in TexAss, and painted with something non-urethane, it will start to go flat in about 6 months even if it only sees sun a few days a week.

You would not know correct urethane like these guys do from stadium mustard.

Just zip it.

I know that will shut your pie hole.

pwned.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

You would not know correct urethras like I do . . .

Fixed for accuracy - you're welcome, bro!

[Bob Kontak]

Deer tick.

Nitrocellulose brush painter.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Bob forgot to mention that were the car located in TexAss, and painted with something non-urethane, it will start to go flat in about 6 months even if it only sees sun a few days a week.

Why did you mention this?

No one paints with urethane anymore and cars are still shiny in Texas.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

. . . cars are still shiny in Texas.

Is your hiney shiny (thinking of decades of sport-paddling and so forth)?!?!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Bob forgot to mention that were the car located in TexAss, and painted with something non-urethane, it will start to go flat in about 6 months even if it only sees sun a few days a week.

Ahhhh - looked at time stamp. Underage Trick or Treaters came by your house at 7:30PM.

You were not really your public self. You became your special self and lost your mind



Mine has been pulling to the right a touch in various neighborhoods I cruise. You think maybe tie rods or perhaps a tired idler arm? Don't say center link cause I don't have the coin. Advise at your convenience.

FYI - Candy is mondo cheap right now, like everywhere, post Halloween. Suggest Reese's Pieces. Always a hit.

Thinking of you, Bro. Soooo much in common.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Mine has been pulling to the right a touch in various neighborhoods I cruise. You think maybe tie rods or perhaps a tired idler arm? Don't say center link cause I don't have the coin. Advise at your convenience.

Bob, the handling abnormalities are probably due to a lack of "free candy & puppies" signage on yer errrrr, party van. Place said signage on both sides, near the back door (no more than 4 feet above the ground, buttofcourse) and report back with observations following your next test run!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

Place said signage on both sides, near the back door (no more than 4 feet above the ground, buttofcourse) and report back with observations following your next test run!

Outstanding advice. Never thought the slight weight differential could deliver such an impact given the carbon fiber underbelly structure and exterior panels.

[Ronnie's.930]

^^^ Did you coat the carbon fiber underbelly with Glasurit 22 Line Clear, Bob?!

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by Ronnie's.930

^^^ Did you coat the carbon fiber underbelly with Glasurit 22 Line Clear, Bob?!

Your Mom bought you your 930 and your giant pedo van.

Ask her for paint and trim advice. She spends a lot of time at my shop.

It will save time.

[Ronnie's.930]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

Your Mom . . .Ask her . . .

Only trouble with that is Mom sez youse two don't speak much when she's over there!

[A horse with no name]

Bob's right in that they don't use acrylic urethane anymore due to the killer isocyanides. Due to this all manufactures now use waterborne colour, including waterborne clearcoat. I have personally have used PPG's Concept (DDC) Acrylic Urethane two stage line numerous times over a couple of decades. For years it was the choice of street rodders and custom hwy trucks.

Don't get me wrong, Glasurit make very good products. as does Sikkens, which many high class paint shops use. As a matter of interest 'only'... Ferrari used to use Glasurit but switched to PPG. E.G. Lexus, Lamborghini, Alpha's, Jag/ L/rover, Williams Martini Racing, Mclaren, are but a few that use PPG. As we know, how well a car is prepped can be more important than what paint one uses. Because we have German cars they tend to use German paints such as Glasurit. Over the years that has changed. America's PPG is know to have excellent products. 2/3's of all cars are painted with a PPG line of finish. They are also very big in aircraft paint such as Virgin Airlines as an example.

The new waterborne paints, such as Glasurit 22, are very different than the original chemical version. Waterborne paints have more pigment and in general they are a better product.

[wayne robson]

Spudboy, over the years i have painted many many classics.Why living in CA i used
PPG, Glasurit,Sikkins, and the last car i painted there a 65 Buick Riviera used Sherwin Williams. Always base coat clearcoat finish.I remember i used Glasurit on a 71Porsche 911
orange,and a 79 Porsche 911 SC,bronze colour i used Sikkens, on those 2 cars i found the glasurit was better to use than the Sikkens,.So then i had to paint my Original one owner 1965 Buick Riviera,ex Phoenix that the paint had worn through to the undercoat
in many places. I thought i would give Sherwin Williams a try, i went to there Sacramento branch and they even had the original paint tag for 1963--65 Riviera in
code Z, Silver Cloud. I used there premier Ultra 7000 system,and it was a real pleasure to use and infact that car i received 2 Ist place in class and many 2nds at shows around
CA. But the real great thing is that the finish is still like the day i painted it 16 years ago,start to finish in 2 days. I still get asked has this car just been painted.
it has never lost its shine or finish. They are the official automotive paint of Nascar.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by A horse with no name

The new waterborne paints, such as Glasurit 22, are very different than the original chemical version. Waterborne paints have more pigment and in general they are a better product.

22 Line is a urethane enamel and you mix it with Glasurit 929 hardener and enamel reducer. There is no clear coat.

There are other product lines that Glasurit sells which are water base paints. Not 22.

I think the traditional BC/CC is 55 Line.

I don't know if you can buy either in California.

[spudboy]

I am also concerned about getting the paint an exact match to the original conda green. Any tips on how to get the original paint formula? Thanks for you input!