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MFI microswitch-- Warren?
I am trying to get to the bottom of some low RPM problems and wanted to get some expert opinions before i start cutting wire looms apart to trace a dead wire.
One wire off of the stack mounted micro-switch goes to the stop solenoid and the other should have power while the car is running, right? I know the solenoid works cause when you touch a hot wire to it, like "Check, Measure, Adjust" says, there is an adible "click". I also know that the switch works cause if you attach said hot wire to the other side of the micro-switch and push the button the solenoid clicks. Thanks for any input. |
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10-05-2001, 11:58 AM
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Explanation of circuit logic for Speed Switch + Microswitch + Cut-Off Solenoid/Magnet:
Refer to items #11, #13, & #15 in the following circuit (also in Haynes on p. 219) schematic: http://www.pelicanparts.com/911/911_Parts/Electrical/911_electrical_1971_Part-2.jpg Item #11 is the Speed Swictch, and is mounted on the engine 'console' in close proximity to the Voltage regulator. It gets the same ground-pulse signal from the distributor that drives the CDI-unit and tach. It is 'activated' and closes a set of relay contacts at 1500 rpm, and the relay contacts do not open up until rpms fall to 1300 rpm. Item #15 is the Microswitch mounted on the throttle body, and operated when throttle rod is at rest, i.e, throttles closed! Item #13 is the Cut-Off Solenoid (or magnet) mounted on the injection pump. The need for the fuel cut-off during overrun is farly easy to understand, since the MFI injection pump operates primarily based on engine rpm and throttle position ... there is no air flow or vacuum input! So, an electronic relay operates when the engine rpm is above 1500 rpm and provides switched 12 Volt power, fed to the Microswitch. So, an overrun condition exists ... meaning the engine is above 1500 rpm and the throttles are closed, the Microswitch provides 12 Volt power to the Cut-off solenoid, causing the fuel to the injectors to be stopped while the engine speed drops to 1300 rpm. The difference in the switching action on rising rpms vs. falling rpms is called hysteresis, and the electronic action of the circuit with different thresholds on rising and falling triggers is called a Schmidt Trigger. This interupted fuel supply is why properly-operating MFI cars always get better gas mileage than Weber-equipped cars -- even found to be the case empirically in 906E race cars at Le Mans! ********************************************* Several recent threads relate to the Speed Switch, aka Rpm Trnasducer, and Speed Relay: http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/Forum3/HTML/009064.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/Forum3/HTML/009138.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/Forum3/HTML/009170.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/Forum3/HTML/009218.html http://www.pelicanparts.com/ultimate/Forum3/HTML/012702.html ------------------ Warren Hall 1973 911S Targa 1992 Dodge Dakota 5.2 4X4 parts hauler [This message has been edited by Early_S_Man (edited 10-05-2001).] |
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10-05-2001, 01:18 PM
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Here is a simplified diagram that includes the Cutoff Solenoid ... aka 'Stop Magnet,' Speed Switch aka 'Rpm Transducer, and Microswitch:
 ------------------ Warren Hall 1973 911S Targa 1992 Dodge Dakota 5.2 4X4 parts hauler [This message has been edited by Early_S_Man (edited 10-05-2001).] |
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10-05-2001, 01:56 PM
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Thanks Warren! After some serious quality time with my Voltmeter i think i have figured it out.
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