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JRSIII 02-09-2016 04:48 AM

Zimmerman Z-Coat Rotor Damage? Follow up Question
 
I recently posted a thread showing some scuff marks on my newly received Zimmerman Z-Coat rotors. I was quickly informed by the members that this was normal and I was worrying about nothing. However, I noticed something last night that I hadn't when I originally posted. Of the two rotors, one has a notch or cutout on the edge. See attached photo. Is this damaged or is this done on purpose? I can't imagine this could be good for balance, unless it is actually done to correct a balance issue due to casting imperfections. In any case, it strikes me as odd that only one of two has this notch. Thanks in advance.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1455025655.jpg

impactbumper 02-09-2016 05:46 AM

nothing to worry in that picture

KTL 02-09-2016 05:47 AM

Yes that is completely normal. It's a machining mark/relief to balance the rotor.

SweetWaterSurprise 02-09-2016 06:01 AM

Agree with what's been posted. Seen it before, nothing to worry about.

JRSIII 02-09-2016 06:52 AM

OK thanks all. I guess the reason that the other one didn't have this was that it was cast perfectly and didn't require balancing?

seafood10 09-12-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JRSIII (Post 8990709)
OK thanks all. I guess the reason that the other one didn't have this was that it was cast perfectly and didn't require balancing?

Hey, I know this is an older post but glad I found it as I am installing 2 zimmerman rotors on my 84 and noticed the same marks in mine.
I figured they were for balancing but this post confirms it.
Would it be too difficult for them to slip a piece of paper into the box to let us know that this is done for balancing??

mepstein 09-12-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seafood10 (Post 10179263)
Hey, I know this is an older post but glad I found it as I am installing 2 zimmerman rotors on my 84 and noticed the same marks in mine.
I figured they were for balancing but this post confirms it.
Would it be too difficult for them to slip a piece of paper into the box to let us know that this is done for balancing??

That would be unusual. It's just a part made to spec. Most parts don't include an explanation to their manufacture. Maybe on their website but rarely in a box.

seafood10 09-12-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mepstein (Post 10179337)
That would be unusual. It's just a part made to spec. Most parts don't include an explanation to their manufacture. Maybe on their website but rarely in a box.

I guess we have not purchased many of the same items then.

mepstein 09-12-2018 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by seafood10 (Post 10179367)
I guess we have not purchased many of the same items then.

I'm mostly familiar with parts that come into our shop from distributors. Probably $10-20K a month. I imagine boutique parts from small manufacturers, custom and consumer oriented retail has more info but your average replacement part (rotors) is just shipped in a box. No instructions

Tippy 09-12-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JRSIII (Post 8990709)
OK thanks all. I guess the reason that the other one didn't have this was that it was cast perfectly and didn't require balancing?

Cast perfect is probably an oxymoron, hence the balance notches you saw.

midnight911 09-13-2018 10:44 AM

That looks dangerous. I'll take them off your hands. Just send them to me.:D

GaryR 09-13-2018 12:26 PM

I would be more concerned with the special "these rotors are defective, do not use" codes on there!

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1536870384.jpg

:D

Fleming 09-13-2018 01:28 PM

Has anyone measured the width of the machined divot?

Confirm or deny if it is the wear limit to minimum rotor thickness.

I've been told it is the rotor thickness "visual check". Is this true?

JRSIII 09-13-2018 01:34 PM

That would make a heck of a lot of sense. Much like a tell tale holes in chemical plant / refinery piping. But only one of the two rotors I ordered had this.

sugarwood 09-13-2018 02:19 PM

Oh funny, I always thought it was a "wear bar" like on tires.

old man neri 09-13-2018 02:39 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1536878154.jpg


Here my two old rotors. I just measured them. A hair under 20mm.

gtc 09-13-2018 04:22 PM

The pads don't usually wear all the way to the edge of the rotor, so the grooves wouldn't be too useful as wear indicators.

donporfi 09-13-2018 08:20 PM

All rotating parts need to be balanced to avoid vibration.
To correct unbalance you add weight like when balancing wheel and tire assemblies or remove weight like in this case where they milled the rotor.
Sometimes the unbalance falls between a tolerance of the balance quality grade and you do not need to do any correction, that is why JRSIII does not see this milled part in one of the rotors he received.
Other parts where you will see milled parts or drilled parts to correct unbalance are flywheels, electric motor rotors, crankshafts, con rods, fans etc.

djpateman 09-15-2018 10:59 AM

I used to see heavy pieces of wire used for balancing.

Tippy 09-15-2018 09:08 PM

Thank you for using the proper term, unbalance. Imbalance is generally incorrectly used instead.


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