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Brokentoy 04-08-2016 10:31 AM

When fun track days...aren't
 
Not my car, but still heartbreaking

emac 04-08-2016 10:45 AM

Now a parts car!
Ernie

theiceman 04-08-2016 10:47 AM

Not too heartbreaking to me . This looks like a dedicated track/ race car . The guys in the game at this level understand this is a big part of the equation.

Heart breaking to me is the car dragged off that looks like this that is a guys daily driver and his buddies convinced him to take his car to the track " aw come on dude the car was designed for the track" "

JacobS911 04-08-2016 10:54 AM

I really would like to do a couple DE event's this summer/fall to learn my 930.. this is in the back of my head! I know I won't be pushing it to the limits of the car above, but still can't help thinking "what if"

DonNewton 04-08-2016 10:55 AM

Cfos?

jimbeaux911 04-08-2016 10:57 AM

that is definitely not a daily driver! and if you can afford to lose it, race it, and if you cant, dont.

bpu699 04-08-2016 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JacobS911 (Post 9071333)
I really would like to do a couple DE event's this summer/fall to learn my 930.. this is in the back of my head! I know I won't be pushing it to the limits of the car above, but still can't help thinking "what if"

Go for it. I started tracking my 930 last year. 3 HPDE so far...

I drive way slower than the car is capable, as I really want it to come home in one piece. Its still way more fun than you can have on the street...

Assuming you drive at 7/10's or less, very little risk I think...

ted 04-08-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by theiceman (Post 9071320)
Not too heartbreaking to me .

deserving of your forum name. ;)

Hate to see anyone at the track experience a $20k++ out of pocket accident.
Watching both race and street cars crash feels about the same to me.
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Loses some sympathy points in a DE crash if an ego fueled red mist driver lacking supervision or instruction is at fault. ;)

Brokentoy 04-08-2016 12:23 PM

Yes, during a very early warm up session. Drivers are both a little beat up, but OK.

Brokentoy 04-08-2016 12:31 PM

This car was said to have spun, and then hit by a following car.

Matt Monson 04-08-2016 12:58 PM

Poor form to post someone else's crashed racecar. Not cool. Car owner can post and tell his story if he wants. You shouldn't.

Brokentoy 04-08-2016 01:02 PM

Matt, that never dawned on me.
Crap, how do I delete?

Matt Monson 04-08-2016 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brokentoy (Post 9071557)
Matt, that never dawned on me.
Crap, how do I delete?

Yuo can just pull the images out of the posts with an edit. As the thread starter you may also be able to delete the whole thing with an edit in the first post. Not sure how Pelican's software is set up.

Brokentoy 04-08-2016 01:13 PM

Sorry, pics deleted.
Glad drivers will be ok.
The owner of the car can contact me directly.

rattlsnak 04-08-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9071554)
Poor form to post someone else's crashed racecar. Not cool. Car owner can post and tell his story if he wants. You shouldn't.

That's idiotic in todays world of social media and technology. It would be in poor form to post theories on what happened or pass judgement like 'he should have done this, or that, etc', but I'm sure a lot of people took pictures of the wrecked cars and popped them all over Instagram, Twitter, etc.. . Many threads on here have started out with a pic and then the owner chimes in later to tell his story.

Matt Monson 04-08-2016 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 9071640)
That's idiotic in todays world of social media and technology. It would be in poor form to post theories on what happened or pass judgement like 'he should have done this, or that, etc', but I'm sure a lot of people took pictures of the wrecked cars and popped them all over Instagram, Twitter, etc.. . Many threads on here have started out with a pic and then the owner chimes in later to tell his story.

Visit the Rennlist racing forum sometime. It's pretty much understood and very well respected there. Moderators will actually pull the thread. Somewhere like 6spd online that's littered with asshats? Yeah, they post people's misfortune all the time.

It's common courtesy. It's the polite thing to do. If you choose not to respect that it is 100% up to you.

juanbenae 04-08-2016 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9071554)
Poor form to post someone else's crashed racecar. Not cool. Car owner can post and tell his story if he wants. You shouldn't.

im with matt. to delete hit the edit button & delete the image from the post if you so desire.

winders 04-08-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 9071685)
to delete hit the edit button & delete the image from the post if you so desire.

This was done at least 1 1/2 hours ago.....late to the party AGAIN!

rattlsnak 04-08-2016 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Monson (Post 9071678)
Visit the Rennlist racing forum sometime. It's pretty much understood and very well respected there. Moderators will actually pull the thread. Somewhere like 6spd online that's littered with asshats? Yeah, they post people's misfortune all the time.

It's common courtesy. It's the polite thing to do. If you choose not to respect that it is 100% up to you.


I've seen plenty of those kind of pics on RL over the years. Even videos actually. But like I said, pics are one thing, commentary is completely different. I certainly wouldn't care if it was mine, but no worries either way.. I get what you are saying.

juanbenae 04-08-2016 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winders (Post 9071690)
This was done at least 1 1/2 hours ago.....late to the party AGAIN!

the party generally waits for me to arrive scott-aa.... you've seen this first hand in the PRC garages... I was (am) the one booing when you walk up to be awarded your podium trinket. hell, im booing you right now!

Jeff Higgins 04-08-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rattlsnak (Post 9071640)
That's idiotic in todays world of social media and technology. It would be in poor form to post theories on what happened or pass judgement like 'he should have done this, or that, etc', but I'm sure a lot of people took pictures of the wrecked cars and popped them all over Instagram, Twitter, etc.. . Many threads on here have started out with a pic and then the owner chimes in later to tell his story.

In my area, posting pics - anywhere at all - of someone else's wrecked car will net you a lifetime ban from all of our track days, with each and every club or organization that hosts them on every track on which they are held (yes, they all share data and compare notes). No ifs, ands, or buts - lifetime. Everywhere. No one cares if you understand why, or if you object. You're done. Period. "Idiotic" or not. No second chances, no appeals. I've seen it happen several times.

rattlsnak 04-09-2016 09:26 AM

I understand what you're saying, it's just sad that it has come to this. Certainly never used to be this way. I just don't get why it's such a big deal. Oh well...

0396 04-09-2016 09:29 AM

As someone posted above, if the owner wants to post it, let them post it.

winders 04-09-2016 12:59 PM

I know the individual that was involved in this incident and he asked me to post this message for him:



To all following this post. The incident occurred at the California Festival of Speed. First practice session for our class. About halfway through the session I spun and went off track and stopped. As I was preparing to go back on track, I noticed in my peripheral vision another car broad sliding at high speed towards me. Then came the crunch. It was a very hard hit. Hardest hit I experienced in over ten years of racing. Other driver apologized and we had a good discussion. We both were devastated by the damage to our cars. Basically two write-offs. Both cars were serious race cars and stuff does happen. It is the nature of the sport.

Part of me thinks I may have been where I was to save the other driver. Had I not been where I was to cushion the impact, the other driver would have broadsided driver's side into the wall. My view is he would have had serious injuries or worse if that had happened.

My main message to all out there is the importance of safety equipment. My cage was intact. Not even bent. Impact wrapped car around cage. Good helmet with Hans and seat that keeps,head from moving side to side important. All worked as designed. Whether racing or doing track days, safety equipment first.

Finally, thanks to,the person who removed the photo.

Have fun and be safe.

Brokentoy 04-09-2016 01:19 PM

No worries I hope.
I posted because it was heartbreaking to me, and did not think about the owner first.


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