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short shift kit

I have a 70 911 T with the factory shifter My wifes 79 SC has a short shift kit installed in it. Once I got used to it I like it better than mine. I want to install the same in mine. I don't know the make of the short shift kit but could find out. Any do's or don'ts can anyone offer? I'll do the work myself. And don't try to convince me not to. When I drive my car I feel like I'm driving a rental moving van.

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there's 2 types for our cars. The Westminster (?) and the factory. I have the westminster but I can't tell you much about it as the cars is in pieces right now. I've heard the factory kit is a little nicer as it doesn't include a plate underneather the shifter, it replaces everything but the shift housing instead.

my 2 cents from what I've heard and the (very) little I've seen, I'm sure other people can give you much more info than what I can give
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there's 2 types for our cars. The Westminster (?)
Sorry, I just sprayed Coke out my nose. The name of the other short-shift kit is Weltmeister. I think Westminster is the Abbey Place
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LOL thanks.. I was writing off the top of my head.. All my documentation's at home.
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The name of the other short-shift kit is Weltmeister. I think Westminster is the Abbey Place
I went there once, but that place was dead.
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i installed a factory short shift kit in my '73 911E. it was a pretty easy job. i haven't seen the weltmeister/westminster kit, but i figured i would splurge and pay a few bucks more for one engineered by porsche.

i actually needed one because i installed a race seat and my stock shifter wouldn't clear the seat when attempting to shift into second gear. i was very happy with how it worked.

while you're down there messing with the shifter, you might as well replace all the bushings (ball cup, tunnel, etc.). the bushings cost next to nothing and it makes sense when your shifter is all apart.

if you are really feeling adventurous, you might also consider replacing the shift coupler bushings in the rear of the car. if you do so, you'll have to adjust the shift coupler (many threads about this project).

all three of these, and you'll have a very sharp shifting machine.
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Seriously, I have heard much better things about the OEM short shift kit than the Weltmeister. It costs a little more, but don't you think Porsche knows how best to build one for their transmissions?
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I installed an aftermarket kit on my '70E. I found shifting to be much more positive after installing the kit. Shifting effort is increased, and that generally seems to be a good thing. However, in my case the amount of effort required to engage first is a little high. This is likely related to the condition of my gearbox. If your car shifts easilly into all gears currently, it will probably be fine with the short shift kit. I do find that I need to reach for the shift lever more than I'd like. I wish the lever was 1" longer. Overall, a very worthwhile modification.
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The thing that no one here seems aware of is that the factory does not make a short shift kit for his car. Factory kit is for 915 trans only, '73-'86. (Can be installed on a '72 if you change the shifter housing). So Weltmeister would be the only option.
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westminster is the dog show i think.

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The thing that no one here seems aware of is that the factory does not make a short shift kit for his car. Factory kit is for 915 trans only, '73-'86. (Can be installed on a '72 if you change the shifter housing). So Weltmeister would be the only option.
Huh? All '72's came with the 915 tranny.
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i actually needed one because i installed a race seat and my stock shifter wouldn't clear the seat when attempting to shift into second gear. i was very happy with how it worked.

I was happy to read the above comment. Being short of stature I have the seat (sport seats) moved forward quite a bit. Shifting into second the shift lever does interfere with the seat. Sounds like the short-shifter kit might be the answer. Thanks!
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i have a weltmeister in my 70' T and i like it. my 0-60 is faster but the shifting is stiff. i like it more then stock
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The Weltmeister ss gives you about 15% shorter shifter than the factory ss. I installed the Weltmeister ss over 3 years ago and have had no problems.

By the way, Westminister is just north of HB.
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Kurt, '72s came w/ the 915, but they had a different (one year only) shifter housing, I think that you need to switch to '73-'86 S.H. for factory short shift kit, but this is not a big deal.
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I installed the Porsche short shift kit a little while ago, together with new bushings all around (including the coupler). Installation of the kit was no problem, the bushings in the coupler were replaced by a local mechanic, re-adjustment of the coupler was a somewhat lengthy proces...Shifting is a lot more precise now, though also a bit heavier than before. I think it was worth it, but mind you - it won't remedy any defects of your gearbox. A gearbox on its last legs will probably feel worse with a short shift kit than with the standard gear.
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Folks,

This is just a pointer. I was at the BA tranny course this week (taught by Jerry Woods) and he gave a pointer to a set of products from Wevo in the 915 arena. In particular, we were talking about:

http://www.wevo.com/wevo915sideshift.htm

No, it's not a side shifter kit, (which is why this post is a bit of a digression) but I thought it was an interesting piece of engineering that might be useful.

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