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doublebuffle 05-03-2016 04:45 PM

Front sway bar is the worst.
 
Whats the secret? I've got the driver torsion unbolted and loosened. Still not enough to get the front sway in. I've edged up the pass side through the new mount, (about 2") and still nothing.

For those about to say, "just put in through-body sways"... don't.

Please your insight

doublebuffle 05-03-2016 04:49 PM

Car's post 74 btw

doublebuffle 05-03-2016 04:53 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/560081-installing-front-sway-bar-79-911sc.html

Tidybuoy 05-03-2016 05:10 PM

I usually add lots of dish soap to one end and push thru the bushing as far as possible. After that, if there is still no room to get the other side in, I will use a rubber mallet and tap the other end until you can get the other side into place. After that, tap the opposite side until the bar is centered. Last, install the brackets that hold the thing in place and install the belly pan (to me, the belly pan is the hardest when trying to get the bolts started).

doublebuffle 05-03-2016 05:34 PM

Glad I have that to look forward to!

911pcars 05-03-2016 05:40 PM

MHO, one of the worst sway bar setups ever, but perfectly suitable for general cruising. Personally, I would take a Sawzall and permanently remove said evidence and replace it with a through-body type setup as found on early 911s. And in case you want to return your ride to concours level, leave the end mounts in place and pick up a factory replacement bar for almost nada (they're worth that much now, but can't speak 30 years hence).

Sherwood

juanbenae 05-03-2016 05:48 PM

drop the strut out of the strut tower and it should give you some room to get things comfy. dish soap as suggested is good too. but it will make yir pee slit burn if you misuse...

rusnak 05-03-2016 05:54 PM

The sway bar is fine. It's no big deal to unbolt the a-arm(s) and install it/them once the sway bar ends are on.

doublebuffle 05-03-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 9105627)
The sway bar is fine. It's no big deal to unbolt the a-arm(s) and install it/them once the sway bar ends are on.

Did this, still a big deal. Lots of lubricant used of course.

It's in now, but I have the bushing sticking out about a 1/4".
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462328941.jpg

doublebuffle 05-03-2016 06:40 PM

Any suggestions on how to slide this aft? I've tried with wood working clamps, rubber mallet, gently pushing while "orbiting" the bar in the bushing, etc...

Reiver 05-03-2016 07:09 PM

It will stay like that unless you undo the lower a arm, re lube....dish washing fluid/soap and be generous...and re mount.
I had the same issue on my first go around.

Quicksilver 05-04-2016 08:55 AM

A bottle of glycerine, ratchet straps, a rubber mallet, and an extensive vocabulary of profanity. Not a problem!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat5.gif

Seriously though, I used all of the tools above and not much vocabulary. It really wasn't that hard. I ended up doing it again a couple weeks later after casting a set of hard bushings using modeling clay as a form.

pmax 05-04-2016 09:34 AM

Dish washing soap, glycerine, straps, mallets .... surely these are not what the pros use.

DRACO A5OG 05-04-2016 10:36 AM

I like to take the load off by placing the front end on ramps, allot of lithium grease and cursing :D.

I updated mine to thicker 87-89 front sway bars, much more difficult. My old thinner ones were much easier but again I had my front wheels on a ramp.

I also found it easier to align the stone guard mounts with it on the ramps.

gliding_serpent 05-04-2016 12:49 PM

A BFH and cursing are both essential components of any mechanic's tool box, be they diy or pro types.

KTL 05-04-2016 01:46 PM

Silicone spray helps too. You want to use a lubricant that doesn't attack the rubber and make it sticky. So anybody thinking of using petroleum grease, don't do it.

Yes indeedy you should loosen whatever A-arm bolts are helpful in getting that SOB installed. Agreed with Sherwood it's the worst.

Because wait until you try to get the U-bracket bolts to go in, as you're trying to align the belly pan. It's a pain in the arse for sure. And be very careful when you do install the bolts- install by hand. After all the pulling and pushing and grunting and swearing like a mofo, it's easy to lose patience and cross-thread those rearward mounting bolts. Been there done that on a handful of these cars.

jomalkay 05-04-2016 04:44 PM

Plumbers grease, get at lowes / Home Depot. I went through same shxt, tried all kinds of crazy, got this grease and was done in a half hour. Other grease makes thinks sticky as previously mentioned.

doublebuffle 05-04-2016 07:47 PM

Update, I'm through this now. I took tons of pictures and (the last time I did it) it went really quickly/easily. I'll do a short write up next week.

Tidybuoy 05-04-2016 11:05 PM

Just fyi, have you measured the diameter of your sway bar and then made sure you have the correct size bushings? Mine always fits easily into those bushings.

Kraftwerk 05-06-2016 11:01 AM

I WAS just about to say: """just put in through-body sways"""

As for rubber lube, Dow /Corning makes a great product: 111 Valve Lube
comes in handy on many automotive situations, have used it on the gaskets on the oil return tubes, with great success.


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