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If the orientation of the compressor isn’t critical, could it perhaps fit in front of the battery tray? Alternately, source a smaller lithium iron battery to place there and utilize the battery tray to place the compressor. I think having the wire run from the battery/alternator/compressor as short as possible would be advantageous, though the AC hoses would still have to run up front.

Just some random thoughts! I’m very glad you’re considering the 914-6s as another possible market.
There are lots of possibilities and placement options. That's the great thing about the electric compressor, you can pretty much put it anywhere. It does need to be upright within 5 degrees but other than that, do whatever you fancy. We just did a classic Mini and put the compressor in the trunk!


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I removed my A/C because it never worked and it leaked coolant through the hoses. What type of coolant does this use and what special features are needed to fit 80s Carreras?
R134A. Special features? Well, there are a few prerequisites. There's 50 plus pages of info in the PDF files on this page:

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I hope everyone is enjoying the Christmas break.

To all the folks patiently awaiting A/C kits, unbeknown to us, the first run depleted the entire stock of the evaporator we use in our blower. Denso are having to make more for us and this has set us back a little. The evaporators are due end of January and we will stockpile to prevent this happening again.

We've been pretty busy behind the scenes too as you can read about here and also in GT Porsche magazine:

Ruf Automobile and the Return of the Tyre Kicker - Ferdinand

2018 is shaping up to be a very exciting year! I hope you all have a great one too!
That is shaping up to be a great year! Some really COOL projects!
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Happy New Year Porsche Fans!

Electrocooler Firmware Update v1.1
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Based on feedback from our first batch of installs we have a couple of improvements to the control algorithm and a couple of new features.

The update runs on a PC only and is in a zip file ‘Electrocooler_v_1_2.zip’ on this page:

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Preparing for the install and had a question about the fan housing with the 90A alternator on a 911SC.


From the install guide:
Early vehicle must be updated to use the 90A alternator from the 3.2 Carrera. As the 90A alternator is longer, the fan housing needs to machined deeper to accept it. This is not a difficult
operation for a machine shop but does require some careful measurement so that the fan pulley is perfectly aligned with the crank pulley.


Could a fan housing from a later car be used instead of machining the original housing?
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See Jon’s post #9 in this thread High Amp Alternator for 84 911 . According to him you can use a 3.2 alternator housing setup as an alternative, but I would anticipate that you won’t find the parts you need for less than $500.

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Thanks. I'm realizing as I search that it will be pricey for updated parts.
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PushinRice,

Not sure where you are in MA. but when you are done with your A/C install, I would like the opportunity to check it out, get your thoughts and maybe some notes about the job for a potential future install in my 83sc.
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I'm about 20 miles North of Boston. Not sure if I will be tackling the install myself, or will be having a shop do it. The install seems straightforward but possibly time consuming. Might cost a lot to have a pro do it and there don't seem to be many special skills or tools needed.

I have not received the parts yet, but hope to get rolling on the install in March. You are totally welcome to come check out the parts and install at any point once it gets going.
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That would be great, thanks! We can't be too far apart, I'm about 30 miles north of Boston.
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Really interested for use on a 993 depending on price point and ease of installation and availability down under.

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See Jon’s post #9 in this thread High Amp Alternator for 84 911 . According to him you can use a 3.2 alternator housing setup as an alternative, but I would anticipate that you won’t find the parts you need for less than $500.

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Yes, either swap to a 3.2 housing or machine out the SC one deeper. We are working on 'proper' high output alternator that will be a direct swap in (without machining) for all model years but we are probably looking at Summer for release.

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That would be great, thanks! We can't be too far apart, I'm about 30 miles north of Boston.
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I'm about 20 miles North of Boston. Not sure if I will be tackling the install myself, or will be having a shop do it. The install seems straightforward but possibly time consuming. Might cost a lot to have a pro do it and there don't seem to be many special skills or tools needed.

I have not received the parts yet, but hope to get rolling on the install in March. You are totally welcome to come check out the parts and install at any point once it gets going.
It's great how people help each other out in this community. Of course, if I can assist in any way, just email me. I'm sure David (dyerkes) will agree, we are pretty much pen pals now!

Hang in there if you're expecting a system, we got let down on a delivery but we hope to start shipping in the next couple of weeks at last.

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Really interested for use on a 993 depending on price point and ease of installation and availability down under.
Well, we have this test mule. I know it's just a 'bitsa' but you have to start somewhere. . Btw, user 'PorkChops' on PFA has our classic system and has sent us some pretty nice feedback on performance in the Australian Summer.

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Jonny, did you pay Brappa for that setup question? My goodness!
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Here's our thoughts with 914 (We have one here). Put the Sawzall down, forget cutting out the spare wheel well.

Condenser ahead of rear wheel.
Compressor either in trunk (lazy man's install), above relay board or suspended under trunk floor near gearbox (opposite side to starter motor)
Hoses run through rocker covers.
Replacement for fresh air blower with evaporator.
What are the dimensions of the condenser? The passenger side 914 wheel well is pretty tight.
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What are the dimensions of the condenser? The passenger side 914 wheel well is pretty tight.
Dimensions: 370mm x 270mm x 95mm (to fan tip) = 14.6 x 10.6 x 3.7 inches.
Weight: 2.3kg = 5 lbs





Some folks might care to know that:

Fan is made in Italy by Spal.
Condenser is either Behr / Nissens. Behr is OEM for Porsche.
Fully shrouded and foam sealed assembly is designed and manufactured in the UK.
Unit has been road tested for 2 years.
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Rear fender install on customer's own bracket. Nicely done:



Same car, mid way through install. Front blower installed in place of fresh air blower, compressor in smuggler's box.



Pictures courtesy of Twin Spark Racing in the Netherlands.
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Maybe you answered this and I missed it but, will the evaporator box with ducts for the 911 application work in the 914 application or is there a separate 914 unit?
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Maybe you answered this and I missed it but, will the evaporator box with ducts for the 911 application work in the 914 application or is there a separate 914 unit?
I don't think it will fit. 914 blower unit is a totally different shape. We have some ideas around 914 but it is some way off.
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I don't think it will fit. 914 blower unit is a totally different shape. We have some ideas around 914 but it is some way off.
Fortunately I weld slowly...
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Why did that customer opt for rear placement? Is there any loss in performance from longer hose?
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