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I'll say it a gain, I am your perfect beta tester. I already pulled that monstrous washer bottle from my build and as previously posted, I am NOT putting in any rear-mounted, hose-crazy engine-driven AC systems in my build. See build thread below.



My WAY over budget /backdate/lightweight/hot rod..



I was planning on driving hot until someone solved it with an electrical system. PM me if you want to talk about it more.


I am with you on this one. Been thinking and thinking all along about something like this.


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Old 07-16-2016, 07:47 AM
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7.5 deg C = 45.5 deg F --- coldest vent temperature shown
24.2 deg C = 75.6 deg F --- inlet air at coldest vent temperature
30 deg C = 86 deg F --- ambient
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Can you provide some photos of the gear?

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Don't get me wrong, I'd rather put 100 pounds up front and replace my battery and/or alternator twice as often rather than get the AC working from motor to cabin, I'm just skeptical.

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From the factory, in perfect working condition, an SC's AC has been described as adequate at best, so comparisons to this system aren't inspiring. Everything else is, though. I want to believe.

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Any chance of a reverse cycle system? Lots of peeps run headers so no heat in the cabin.
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Yeah, that is a good read and depressing, I think this would of been done already if it was possible. I think with technology and EV tech especially it may be possible eventually.

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And gold BBS wheels! Oh, and a three level wing in the back. ...and bolt on fenders! and..
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Are we talking about something like this?
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Some one pull the trigger on the Jegs system and give it a shot :-) prefereably some one in Arizona in August.

Where does that white box go? Under the dash?
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Electric compressor sounds interesting, really interesting!!

I like a lot of you wonder if it is ready for prime time.

I am sure it will come because electric motor technology is evolving, control systems are getting more sophisticated and compressor technology is evolving. Variable volume compressors have loads that vary with need. This puts less load on the electric motor.

Not surprising to see the aftermarket hot rod area be the first to come forward. This is perhaps a bigger market than the early P car market, but we will benefit from their work.
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7.5 deg C = 45.5 deg F --- coldest vent temperature shown
24.2 deg C = 75.6 deg F --- inlet air at coldest vent temperature
30 deg C = 86 deg F --- ambient
Not to bang on an innovative a/c alternative, but 45.5 vent temps in ambient of 86 degrees, means that system would be crying for Mamma here in Texass (aka - would not do much but would be better than windows down). By comparison, I get vent temps in the mid 20s F in those ambients, and upper 20s in the high 90s.

That said, adding an additional condenser with fan would probably bring the system up to Texass levels, butt then you've added weight, more hoses, and more current draw, so against one of the goals of the system.

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The prototype is just that. We have loads of things going against us that can be remedied. Just for starters:

1) No air recirculation. We are cooling hot air from outside, not pre-cooled air from inside.

2) Pathetic alternator. For hot climates, we will supply an uprated one with the kits. That should allow to run the compressor a bit faster (currently at only 25% speed)

3) No ram air to the condenser at present.

We are working on all of the above.

Believe it or not, the UK is having a heatwave this week. It is set to be 33 degrees ( 91 F ) tomorrow or Tuesday. Not quite Texas, but on a par with LA.
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Not to bang on an innovative a/c alternative, but 45.5 vent temps in ambient of 86 degrees, means that system would be crying for Mamma here in Texass (aka - would not do much but would be better than windows down). By comparison, I get vent temps in the mid 20s F in those ambients, and upper 20s in the high 90s.

That said, adding an additional condenser with fan would probably bring the system up to Texass levels, butt then you've added weight, more hoses, and more current draw, so against one of the goals of the system.


You keep calling TX like that someone will hand you your ... one of these days

I am good up to 105 degrees without a/c, pass that I need water with me. Learn to adapt, cause i am cheap

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I'm with impactbumper. Let's respect the Lone Star State on here!

This is a really cool idea, based on the other products I've acquired from Classic Retrofit, if they decide it's good enough to release, it'll be good stuff!
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You keep calling TX like that someone will hand you your ... one of these days
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The three of you Texasses couldn't hand a Texass mouse his texASS - come and getcha suuummm!!!
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The three of you Texasses couldn't hand a Texass mouse his texASS - come and getcha suuummm!!!
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Like a bowse!
Just trying to reach the Bobasaurous heights of slingin' and slangin', buttofcourse!

BerkBumper, I guarandayumntee that if you ever find a big enough crowbar for your wallet, you will kick yer own Texass for not installing boss a/c in your 911 sooner - makes using the car a joy around here in this hellish climate. This past year, since Texas (there, are you happy now, bro?!?! ) skipped winter altogether, I used my a/c year round. I only operated the heat one time last year . . . on 1 and for about ten minutes! BUTT, you are not rollin' with turbo powaaa, so maybe weight and a 3-4 horsepower loss due to compressor usage is a concern (things which the Mighty Meatlocker Turbo scoffs at!!!)?!?!


Johnny, in all seriousness, that is an excellent work in progress, project you've got there - very cool (literally) to read about!

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Just trying to reach the Bobasaurous heights of slingin' and slangin', buttofcourse!

BerkBumper, I guarandayumntee that if you ever find a big enough crowbar for your wallet, you will kick yer own Texass for not installing boss a/c in your 911 sooner - makes using the car a joy around here in this hellish climate. This past year, since Texas (there, are you happy now, bro?!?! ) skipped winter altogether, I used my a/c year round. I only operated the heat one time last year . . . on 1 and for about ten minutes! BUTT, you are not rollin' with turbo powaaa, so maybe weight and a 3-4 horsepower loss due to compressor usage is a concern (things which the Mighty Meatlocker Turbo scoffs at!!!)?!?!


Johnny, in all seriousness, that is an excellent work in progress, project you've got there - very cool (literally) to read about!
yeah i need a/c, i know
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