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Karl,

It pains me to see you had this compressor failure, especially after you got all the bugs ironed out of your system. Sorry Pal

Kuehl brings up two very good points for the rest of us;

1) How many of us are driving around with a 10+ year old compressor (with MORE than 100k miles on it), just waiting to explode like Karl's

2) How many of us would benefit from the inline filter Charlie describes in post #79?

Where can we get one of these inline A/C filters. Any recommendations?

I am assuming an inline A/C filter would have spared Karl (and the rest of us) from reinstalling the A/C system after a compressor failure.
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Old 08-13-2016, 10:25 AM
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You can find plenty of in-line ac filters out there: with barbs, with standard fittings, o-ring, or flare, male or female. In case you wondered what I suggested was for a line size 8.

But, as I said.... never used one in 20 plus years and thousands of stock or advanced systems.

What we do recommend with any questionable compressor or anything over 50k miles (old compressors in that context) is you open them up and inspect the bores, pistons, wobble plate and reeds.

I'd recommend for any reader whom is new to the AC subject or this forum is go back and read Karl's My AC Burns me up, parts 1 and 2,
there is tons of information discussing not only this issue, but system trouble shooting as well.
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Karl, you might want to pimp out your sexy seamstress skillz in order to help fund the a/c referb project!

Griff, those two threads you mentioned are worth the read just for the entertainment value alone, BUTT they should probably come with a warning label saying that humorless types need to avert their eyes!
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Yeah RawKnees, a lot of good stuff in there about electrical circuits, charging, pressures, how to test your evaporator before you write 200 pages (just bustin your chops Karl).

My AC Burns Me Up - Part 1

My AC Burns Me Up - Part 2


I can't comment on the... appalling, bad looking, foul, gross ill-favored, grisly, grotesque, repelling, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, ....
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Yeah RawKnees, a lot of good stuff in there about electrical circuits, charging, pressures, how to test your evaporator before you write 200 pages (just bustin your chops Karl).

My AC Burns Me Up - Part 1

My AC Burns Me Up - Part 2


I can't comment on the... appalling, bad looking, foul, gross ill-favored, grisly, grotesque, repelling, repugnant, repulsive, revolting, ....
Griff, those threads get a little off the rails when Wild West shows up and Ronnie can't help but make an ass of himself. Horse's ass. Jackass? All of the above, certainly. In any case, those threads are useful in that the troubleshooting steps work. It's fun to go back and see the shenanigans, but also to see the solid adivce Karl was given there.
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^^^

There was this guy that posted in those threads, name of HiHoSilber or something like that - a real chowderheadedchoad right there! And he smelled bad, too (like a barnyard)!

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'inline filter' between the compressor outlet, after the pressure switch, before the deck lid condenser.



Superidea. Been digging into these gizmos online. Think sight glass version with relief valve. Put where hose runs along lid bracket just before condenso (azzuming it will fit there.)

RN... regards to you in CA. No complaints here---discovery is good.
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Karl,

After a few more gin and tonics, a few nights of sleep to recover,
I'm pondered whether this would be practical.

Most 'in-line' ac filters are found on the liquid side of the cycle, meaning
before a drier or after a drier and before the TEV; and you find these more typically in home or industrial units. And, ya got to wonder.... WTF? That's a little to late to capture the debris after its gotten into all the lines and condenser(s). And, the screen type filters found inside some compressor inlet ports is too late for the show as well.

In order to filter the superheated refrigerant gases you will need a filter that can withstand the heat as well as the gas flow.

Once again, we have never needed to install any form of ac filter in any place.

I sense this could become one of your one off adventures.
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^^^ Yeah... I do slam dunks on occasion but generally speaking, I bite into significant learning curves. Thought this was gona be a quickie. Flush-evac-charge-done. Not.

A.A.I. filter with sight glass that I posted above.... called company. They no longer make it. Spoke with maker of filter below. They want at least 4" of hard line (to cut filter into) suggesting it be placed after condensers and before TXV... premise being for filt to capture any residual debris ejected from condensers. Having cut a drier in half, I know large debris will not make it through R/D. Manufacturer of filt below does not retail. $39 on Amazon. Asked tech if it should be inspected @ some set mileage. Tech said, "No. With PS installed, if filter clogs, low pressure will cut system off---filter is then first place to go to."

EDIT: This thing is promoted as an "inline filter" when in fact it is only a canister. Reviews on it advise that an orifice tube needs to be had separately then modified to fit this canister. WAWOT!
2ND EDIT: Am leaving first edit to example what a biatch it is to get the right info. Company tech said "There is filter inside." I asked if it is replaceable. "No."

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Looks to be a complete filter...

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Karl,

I'd simply start off fresh.
The system performed perfectly 11 years ago.

The issue years later was simply an evaporator whom's cooling fins
got clogged with Florida chads. The pressures were fine.

Later you tossed in a new shaft seal?

Then, the issue became a used compressor, running for 11 years,
trying to sing through the verses of 200 pages of terrible songs.

Start off fresh and move on.
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Thought filt was fine idea. But small part is turning into full time job today. I'm ending it now and going for hose.
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Oh boy now we back to chads and better lower hanging chads for us filter feeders in floridia
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Thought filt was fine idea. But small part is turning into full time job today. I'm ending it now and going for hose.
Hose, condensers (if they go chads), drier,

Pull evaporator, remove TEV, flush out those chads.

Time to call Halliburton. They have great experience with flushing holes and contamination.
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Thought filt was fines idea.
Fixed! Yer welcome, Karl!
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^^^ You're getting hang of editorializing Ronogorilla.

"Buy new everything." Sounds like my GF on the loose with my bank account. Respect input however, with budgets already f'd on my homefront, not gona trash 3 condensers and an evap without at least investing some time testing a lengthy cleanout protocol. Multiple chems… vibration… dancing girls… rumcocktails… slipsnot playing in background. OK... may or may not work… Seems worth a try before spending $1800.

Condenso excavation...




First fully intact o-ringer (from condenso.) Dedicating this fine-ding to brother Rawnuckles (for his first post on material potentially being piston rings.)

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^^^ You're getting hang of editorializing Ronogorilla.

"Buy new everything." Sounds like my GF on the loose with my bank account. Respect input however, with budgets already f'd on my homefront, not gona trash 3 condensers and an evap without at least investing some time testing a lengthy cleanout protocol. Multiple chems… vibration… dancing girls… rumcocktails… slipsnot playing in background. OK... may or may not work… Seems worth a try before spending $1800.

Condenso excavation...




First fully intact o-ringer (from condenso.) Dedicating this fine-ding to brother Rawnuckles (for his first post on material potentially being piston rings.)

I am just staggered one the size of the debris you are finding. I always envisioned just small specks like in on the 915 transmission drain plug magnet.

You have something like from the movie Alien erupting from the body of your AC system. You need a Ripley to open a can of whoop ass on that system.

Sorry for your loss (to your bank account) on the system.
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