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Matched or not, the 245/45/16 size is a dinosaur for the tire companies. It's awesome companies like Pirelli put out a modern-compound tire in some vintage sizes (they're known for that in Europe, actually), but the Trofeo R would be a tenuous street tire for me in 3 seasons (not counting winter).

The Toyo T1R is still available some places in 245/45/16, but I don't like that compound at all compared to the RE-11.

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Just got my new R1 Ss mounted. Very little clearance, but no rubbing.
225 and 245s on 7 &8" x 16s.
You mean BF Goodriche G-Force R1-S tires - DOT-legal race tires. I'm sure many use these on public roads, but watch out for wet conditions and rapid wear (tread life begins at 4/32")

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Tirerack.com shows 2 options for 205/245 combo

Pirelli - P ZERO TROFEO R (street legal tires)
Toyo - PROXES R888 (autocross only, not sure about street?)
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So what is the option for a 16 inch 205 or 225 front and 245 rear setup once the re11 eventually becomes unavailable?
Tire Rack is huge but isn't necessary the go-to source for early Porsche tires.
A better Toyo street tire are T1Rs, an older design, but still available if you look. Seems like they're more plentiful in the UK (more pcars there?)

I would plan ahead and purchase the increasingly scarce tires discussed, then store them properly for a somewhat limited time peace of mind - and hammer the usual tire sources and let them know there's still a market for 205s and 245s.

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You mean BF Goodriche G-Force R1-S tires - DOT-legal race tires. I' sure many use these on public roads, but watch out for wet conditions and rapid wear (tread life begins at 4/32")
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These G-Force R1-S are definitely autocross only. Way to soft for normal street use.

On my other set of wheels I have Toyo RA-1s in 205 and 225 16. Unfortunately the 205s are NLA at this time. They still make the 225 and 245 16s. That will be what I go to the next time I need street/DE tires.
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These G-Force R1-S are definitely autocross only. Way to soft for normal street use.

On my other set of wheels I have Toyo RA-1s in 205 and 225 16. Unfortunately the 205s are NLA at this time. They still make the 225 and 245 16s. That will be what I go to the next time I need street/DE tires.
RA-1s are also listed as an autocross tire.
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RA-1s are also listed as an autocross tire.
I guess it depends. The RA-1s have a tread wear rating of 100, and the R1-s is 40 and much softer. I have not had any undo wear with the RA-1s on the street. My first set of RA-1s I autocrossed with a couple of years, maybe 20 events plus three days of DE and about 3000 street miles before they were smooth. They are definitely fair weather tires, but I have found them suitable for occasional street use. Your mileage may vary, since my 2100lb, 180 hp car is easy on tires.
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These are my Toyos for comparison. 205, 225 16s on 7 and 8" Fuchs. Fender lips rolled and 2 deg. negative camber front and rear.


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