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Investigator759 10-03-2016 03:58 PM

Color change and value ???
 
Hi guys. I have an opportunity to buy a very nice very original 76 912e to keep my. 911 sc company. It has a 30 year old good quality repaint which was a color change. How do you think that effects value ? Do you think the 76 912 will continue to appreciate in value ?

Thanks

Dave Colangelo 10-03-2016 08:16 PM

As of late pretty much all Porsches have seen a slow if steady rise in value (well maybe not the early 924's but you get the point). I would say it depends on a few things. If the repaint was a good repaint, and they really sprayed where they were supposed to, the color is not totally wacky, and its close to if not a proper Porsche color for the era and car, it will most likely be somewhat neutral on the effect it has on the value.

If its a color thats wacky, out of left field or just plain ugly, either someone is willing to pay big money for if you can find them, or that one guy already has the other 912 they painted in that color and he has no use for yours when it comes time to sell it. (that guy is going to be a hastle to deal with anyway...)

If the paint job is shoddy that always counts against you.

Has anything else been changed on the car? Generally people look for good drivers, while there are some who look for the purest of the pure in terms of originality if other things have already been changed than that factor may be lost anyway.

In reality there are lots of factors here but one thing counting for you is that real value effect or now you may be able to use the respray as a bargaining point.

Regards
Dave

fintstone 10-04-2016 03:16 AM

Of course it affects value. That doesn't mean that it is not a good deal or that it will not appreciate. It just means that it is likely worth less than a car repainted to the same quality in the original color.

If it is not the original color, it really cannot be described as "very original." On the other hand, if you are personally ok with the color and want it to drive (not just an investment), buy and drive it...then, if it makes sense later, reprint to original.

KNS 10-04-2016 03:49 AM

For me, if it used to be an ugly (sale proof) color and was now a period correct, nice color, I'd be fine with it. But... I'd want to see pictures of the car completely stripped down to bare metal for the repaint.

porschenut 10-04-2016 07:13 AM

Factory paint, if in good condition, will always have more value than an aftermarket repaint, no matter how good it was done or what color it is. So, if this car is otherwise original and has been kept in good condition, it would be worth more if it were still wearing the factory paint. How much more would depend on the colors before/after, and individual buyer preference.

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 10-10-2016 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Investigator759 (Post 9304505)
Hi guys. I have an opportunity to buy a very nice very original 76 912e to keep my. 911 sc company. It has a 30 year old good quality repaint which was a color change. How do you think that effects value ? Do you think the 76 912 will continue to appreciate in value ?

Thanks



912 will definitely continue to go up in value. Like others are saying, original paint; even if in less than perfect condition, is always more desirable then a re-spray when buying. I wish I pulled the trigger on a 78' SC in 2011 when it was still "affordable" :)


-Dmitry

sugarwood 10-10-2016 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry at Pelican Parts (Post 9314223)
912 will definitely continue to go up in value. -Dmitry

If you are old enough to have been an adult with assets during a bear market or recession (over age 35, I'd say)
you know that it can also drop in value, just like every other collector car segment has done in the last few decades.

Jim Richards 10-10-2016 09:29 PM

The 912e is not such an important model in the air-cooled hierarchy that I would be worried about its investment value. Not like the long hood 912. Not like any 911. The overall rising tide of air-cooled Porsche prices has brought the 912e up, but any slowdown in the market will see its value plummet first. If you like it and enjoy it great, but don't expect a 912e to be an investment. Color should be whatever makes you happy. At least in my opinion. I hope it all works out well for you.

Dmitry at Pelican Parts 10-11-2016 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 9314311)
If you are old enough to have been an adult with assets during a bear market or recession (over age 35, I'd say)
you know that it can also drop in value, just like every other collector car segment has done in the last few decades.


Good point. Although I think in a well-balanced economy the 912 will get a slight rise in it's current value; pristine ones at least...

Cook&Dunning 10-11-2016 04:29 PM

I feel like part of the conversation needs to be - Are you planning on keeping it forever? If so, do whatever you want - i.e. go original, leave repaint. If you are thinking about selling it in a couple of years, perhaps a different dynamic. It is already non-original paint, and so there is a story to tell. Is this a for-profit venture, or for you?


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