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speeds5 01-01-2017 07:24 AM

Raising shifter base question
 
Quick question (sorry if a stupid one) for those that have gone through this. Before I start tearing apart my Wevo shifter, how much can I raise the base without having to cut the tunnel like it's required with those that go the raised tunnel route.

Can I get away with an inch or two? Can I raise it say 1" inch on the front and nothing in the back so it's tilted towards the back resulting in the shifter knob being closer to me?

Jack Stands 01-01-2017 11:28 AM

You can certainly get by with 1/4" ( like some short shifter kits use), but I think you might run into problems with the shifter rod interfering with the center tunnel sheet metal if you raise it an inch. You could try to simply use some washers and longer bolts under the shifter console to see how much you can raise it.

You might find it easier to simply add an extension to the shift lever if you want to simply raise the position of the shifter. Been done plenty of times in the past.

speeds5 01-01-2017 11:41 AM

Thanks for the reply. I hear you on the shift lever, but i have this one and not sure how that would work with this lever.

https://www.wevo.com/Products/ShifterProducts/WevoShifterProducts_Shifter-915Silver.htm

Trackrash 01-01-2017 03:59 PM

I built a 1/2" spacer under my 901 shifter. Probably can do the same with a 915.

911pcars 01-05-2017 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by speeds5 (Post 9416023)
Thanks for the reply. I hear you on the shift lever, but i have this one and not sure how that would work with this lever.

https://www.wevo.com/Products/ShifterProducts/WevoShifterProducts_Shifter-915Silver.htm

If you can, remove the shift knob and take a photo of the top of the lever, then post it for a look-see.

Sherwood

will hung 01-05-2017 06:00 AM

I bought an extension, but I have a classic shift rod for my WEVO.

You could get yourself a ton of washers, remove your shifter base, and add washers until you reach your limit. Then you can have a solid spacer made or buy individual spacers to replace the washers. Documenting it here would help people thinking of doing it in the future.

911pcars 01-05-2017 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by will hung (Post 9420658)
I bought an extension, but I have a classic shift rod for my WEVO.

You could get yourself a ton of washers, remove your shifter base, and add washers until you reach your limit. Then you can have a solid spacer made or buy individual spacers to replace the washers. Documenting it here would help people thinking of doing it in the future.

Careful about adding too many washers. Since the round shift shaft support bushing assy. attaches to the bottom of the shift housing, at some point, raising the shift housing will bind the shift shaft. Spacing the support bushing a like amount is also possible.

Sherwood

will hung 01-05-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911pcars (Post 9420834)
Careful about adding too many washers. Since the round shift shaft support bushing assy. attaches to the bottom of the shift housing, at some point, raising the shift housing will bind the shift shaft. Spacing the support bushing a like amount is also possible.

Sherwood

Of course, I'm saying you can space it upward with washers, so that you incrementally lift the shifter. You don't even have to drive the car with the shifter raised, you can shift it in your garage and if it moves freely, put another round of washers underneath until it starts to bind. Then you can work backwards until you get it where you want it, unless it doesn't raise enough to make you happy.

Truthfully, the best option would be to sell your current shifter and get a classic Wevo shifter and add an extension to the shifter shaft itself.

speeds5 01-15-2017 07:37 PM

Well i took the shift knob apart and tried to find an extender for it. Problem is the Wevo uses M6 x 1.0 threads which is impossible to find. All of the extenders i was able to find online were either M10 or M12. No luck there.

Back to the drawing board. I had to make my own extender. Went online and got an aluminum rod of same diameter as the wevo top part where the knob attaches. 5/8" was a perfect fit. I started by grinding one end with a dremel to get to the M6 bolt thickness. Grinding aluminum is not the easiest considering you can't just use a grinding stone. I had to get special high speed cutter for the dremel which worked ok. A bit slow but i was ok with that. I was covered in aluminum shavings after all said and done.

Once I got the the right thickness i started cutting new threads. That went pretty smooth. Then I cut the rod to the length i wanted 3.5" and made a hole on the other end. Then I stated cutting threads again. This was a ***** as i couldn't get it started. Tried for like an hr and finally gave up, took the family out to dinner, came back and gave it a try. Started on the first try. Go figure. Shaved the outer edge a bit so the knob would go in and i was in business. Installed it and immediately noticed a huge improvement. Going into third and fifth was a breeze. I had to reach for 5th before whereas now it was effortless. It's not the prettiest but it's going into a track car and it does the job. That's all that matters.

Enjoy the pics.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1484540780.jpg
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will hung 01-16-2017 04:41 AM

Looks great. Good job!

You could offer these for sale and people would probably buy them.

Elombard 01-16-2017 05:26 AM

Hmmm great effort I am concerned that the amount of torque at that joint may snap the threads off at the base of your extension. Be careful.

I wonder if you could get a super long stud or bolt and use a tube. to achieve this. Not sure if they would make a bolt that thin and that long.

speeds5 01-16-2017 07:51 AM

Thank you! Honestly not interested in that. Too much effort and very little spare time. I spend enough time in the garage already. If i spent any more my wife would divorce me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by will hung (Post 9434562)
Looks great. Good job!

You could offer these for sale and people would probably buy them.


speeds5 01-16-2017 08:01 AM

I thought about it and was concerned as well but seems sturdy enough. I thought of maybe putting a thin sheet metal at the joint and attaching it with tube fasteners. I might do that afterall but for now it will do.

I also thought about the idea of an M6 long stud inside of a small diameter tube. Thought this way would be cleaner and went with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elombard (Post 9434594)
Hmmm great effort I am concerned that the amount of torque at that joint may snap the threads off at the base of your extension. Be careful.

I wonder if you could get a super long stud or bolt and use a tube. to achieve this. Not sure if they would make a bolt that thin and that long.


Elombard 01-16-2017 08:13 AM

I was just looking at the studs and a thought occured, if you drill and tap your extension on both ends then you can use a high grade stud and I think it would be way stronger - also could use a mild steel so it would bend in a failure instead of snap off.

I dont know - probably not a big deal if it were to snap off you could just drive with the remainder of the shifter. people lose the shift knob all the time during a race.

speeds5 01-16-2017 08:33 AM

That's a great idea. I do have left over aluminum rods I can use for that. I might just try one. You are right though, it's not the end of the world if it breaks mid shift. Hopefully not on a downshift

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elombard (Post 9434746)
I was just looking at the studs and a thought occured, if you drill and tap your extension on both ends then you can use a high grade stud and I think it would be way stronger - also could use a mild steel so it would bend in a failure instead of snap off.

I dont know - probably not a big deal if it were to snap off you could just drive with the remainder of the shifter. people lose the shift knob all the time during a race.


COL 911 01-16-2017 01:17 PM

I made an extension out of an old coping saw handle that happened to be the same diameter and thread size. Die-cut threads and mounted old walnut knob on the other end.

I found shifter much more ergonomic with this little extension and I wasn't reaching as much - it was right at hand, very comfortable. Sorry for crappy pix...http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1484605013.jpg


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