Dawdl this/ no $hit. Like I needed that. I tried my best. and it isn't gone. Not even officially for sale. I know he'll do $42k because of KBB pricing model. I wanted a steal, not just a good deal

Well played new guy.... well played.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ps4eac8a7e.gif

Tried your best?

Did you the $31k ready in cash?

You test drove it, and started posting here about warning lights.
Did you have a $12 OBD scanner on hand when you test drove it?

In that time, the seller got smart.

Let's see if you've learned from this experience.

sugarnuts. You don't know.
I scheduled to see it asap, which was Friday. His Friday afternoon patient spill the beans. He still let me test it. I offered $34k on the spot(which he was going to take $28k before). Now I have another offer in. ie wish me luck(no you sugar)
Why so harsh anyway. Every post. Geez

I think we can feel for the OP's slight lack of knowledge as to market and Porsche details across a range of models. An experienced buyer might have acted like Sugarwood suggested, but a lot of us don't do this often enough to do so. I would be kicking myself just like him, for not reacting quickly enough for what could have been a killer deal. That's how we all learn, and I thank him for posting, so I might be better prepared myself.
Thanks,
Dave

Maybe I was too harsh on Gamby.
I felt he was an experienced 944 guy, so this is not his first rodeo.
To get a great deal, you need to know the market and act quickly.
Gamby is not there yet, and that can only come with some experience.
At least he knows the market better than he did 5 days ago.

I'm rooting for the Targa deal to come thru.
An '86 with 39k for $25k is a steal.
If it runs, buy it!

I didn't drag my feet, dawdl, etc. I did start a thread while I was waiting to see the 993. Thought I'd ask some questions, get to know some good folks while I was WAITING.

BTW 2 minute internet search told me it was a steal. Even ifn I aint got no fancy Porsche edgication like yalldo .

jerkys

Now that's just mean, Sportin'aWoody - to wish a flexi flyer, rolling terrarium on anyone is totally uncool!!!

jk. I'm lashing out whilst kicking myself.
I'm to see the Targa tomorrow(the soonest he would do:). I'll be back with pics

Oh, I saw that you posted a photo of the car 8am Sat. saying you test drove it.
So, you test drove it Friday, but you did not post the deal was off until today at noon.
That is why I assumed you had a window of time to act.

When you go see the Targa, bring $25k in cash with you.
If it runs, drive it directly home, lock it in your garage, and go back for your car later!!

It isn't always easy or wise to just throw a *****-ton of money on a car like these "hoping" it's not a hidden basket case. There are risks involved. You win some, and you loose some. Doubt there was much the OP could have done outside of a very risky, and possible foolish buy.

So I have more deals cooking.. 2005 911 4s AWD w/ 50.5kmiles. I'll trade my xp1k4 and cash(put's me in around $26.5k). Sound decent assuming it looks/drives well.

Aside from it not being a 993/SC, IMS bearing, history, blah, what else to look out for on this one?

lmk. because I want to act fast;)

Some things are too good to be true, but there they are. This car is legit. The test drive was already scheduled, then he got educated. He still kept is appointment w/ me, I drove it and offered $34k($6k over what he thought I was bringing). I had logic on that #, guess it didn't work.

If not for planet mis-alignment, talking patients, and my bad luck, I was getting it for $28-30K. I imagine he'll just hold onto it now, but I'll keep trying. Spilt milk now.

Any progress in the last week?

No dag-burnit!
Was supposed to look today. Guy couldn't find code to storage, or the key to his unit!

I'm busy tomorrow, so we're going Monday with bolt cutters.
More altered nights ;(

I am not going to comment on the pricing and dealing on your original post other than to say....wow! I do however have an 85 (Euro) and a 96 and can comment on the relative ownership/driving experience. Although only eleven years apart, the driving experience is much more refined and therefore the car is much more complicated. My car is a little more raw (compared to stock) due to RS clutch, RS motor mounts, RS shifting linkage, poly bushings Bilstien coilovers, etc. Most owners change the ride height from stock and I see your black car is still rocking that "SUV" American stock height. This likely indicates that the suspension is all original and therfore likely in need of attention. Both cars have something the water pumpers don't seem to capture. On long trips in the 85, it is impossible to forget what your driving...in the 993 (being more refined) it is much easier to sit back and let the miles go by without thought of what your driving. I have had the opportunity to do many miles in water pumpers and honestly, IMHO although fantastic and comfortable cars, they seem to miss the essence of the original 911. Also, it is anyone's guess whether pricing on these have have reached bottom so what may look like a great deal today may not preserve your investment. The production numbers in the WP era are huge. Personally, I would miss either of my cars if I had to have only one. There is no right choice but it you have to envision what it is you want from the car....a traditional, raw sports car experience at semi legal speeds or a more refined (more GT focused) car that is really at home carrying significant speed. Cheers and good luck

Can you help us see what you're seeing?
I can't even see the fender gap.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1484398321.jpg

Hi Sugarwood,
Hard to tell from that picture, shot from above. Take a side picture from 3 feet off the ground, or post your wheel well heights. I think it looks pretty darn good. Also I'm not sure in '86 there was any stock ride height variation worldwide.
Dave

Admittedly, the picture leaves someone to fill in the blanks. My interpretation of the shadows and the side profile of the tires suggest stock North American height. I could easily be mistaken but my car set to ROW height LOOKS lower than this car and normally with these cars, ROW height is the highest of the lowered heights. I have a pretty rustic driveway and really can't safely get away with anything lower. Cheers