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billh1963 01-24-2017 05:39 PM

For those who have installed the Continental Radio....a wiring question
 
I am replacing an aftermarket Pioneer radio in my '85 targa with the Continental unit.

The installer made quite a mess when installing the previous radio (house wiring nuts and electrical tape). However, I am working through that and am soldering my new harness and using shrink tubing.

I have the yellow wire connected to the A7 pin as shown in the pinout. I have confirmed that it is powered all the time.

I have the ignition wire (red) connected to A4. I have confirmed that it is only powered when the ignition is on.

The Illumination line is wired to A6 and works correctly and A8 is grounded.

Now, I have a question...

When I plug the harness in to test the radio, I can turn the radio on with the ignition key off. When I start the car and the car is running, the radio also turns on and off as it should. I thought that the purpose of the constant power line was to keep the radio settings and the ignition wire actually turns the radio on and off. However, using the pinout shown the radio can be turned on even with the ignition off.

Am I misunderstanding something? Could the pinout be wrong?



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1485308312.jpg

G50 01-24-2017 08:25 PM

I have that same radio, same instructions.

You have it wired wrong.

spedrcr 01-25-2017 10:28 AM

As I read your post, I would describe the radio as being "hot". This is how my 1993 Audi S4 is with it's factory radio.

I'm not sure I understand what your concern is but i wanted to jump in as I'll be doing this same radio install on my '87 targa soon. Correct me if I'm wrong but do you want the radio to turn off when you turn off the ignition/car as if you were parking? Is your concern you might leave the radio on and drain the battery?

I have found that I enjoy the "hot" radio in my Audi as I can listen to the radio without having anything else on or key in. It has become habit to just turn everything off, HVAC, lights and radio before I turn off the car. Same goes for my targa.

Looking forward to your response.

guli 01-25-2017 11:02 AM

The system setting "Logic" controls if you can turn on the unit when the ingition is off.

From the manual:

Logic ON/Logic OFF
Logic ON to limit the use of the set to one hour when the car ignition is switched off.Logic OFF to prevent the set from turning on, when the car ignition is switched off.

billh1963 01-25-2017 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spedrcr (Post 9447024)
As I read your post, I would describe the radio as being "hot". This is how my 1993 Audi S4 is with it's factory radio.

I'm not sure I understand what your concern is but i wanted to jump in as I'll be doing this same radio install on my '87 targa soon. Correct me if I'm wrong but do you want the radio to turn off when you turn off the ignition/car as if you were parking? Is your concern you might leave the radio on and drain the battery?

I have found that I enjoy the "hot" radio in my Audi as I can listen to the radio without having anything else on or key in. It has become habit to just turn everything off, HVAC, lights and radio before I turn off the car. Same goes for my targa.

Looking forward to your response.

I really don't have a problem with the radio being "hot". In many ways it is more convenient to have the radio on with the ignition out.

However, I decided to install the radio in the "normal" mode with the radio only coming on with the ignition on. So, since the radio is not performing that way, my concern is why?

I'm 99.999999% sure I have the plug wired correctly. However, one thing I have not checked (and will do tonight) is the connector. The connector I bought is aftermarket and I want to make sure there is not an internal jumper or something similar that is powering the "ignition" pin with the constant 12V line.

billh1963 01-25-2017 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guli (Post 9447070)
The system setting "Logic" controls if you can turn on the unit when the ingition is off.

From the manual:

Logic ON/Logic OFF
Logic ON to limit the use of the set to one hour when the car ignition is switched off.Logic OFF to prevent the set from turning on, when the car ignition is switched off.

Thank you for that! I did not see that in the manual...I'll check that!

spedrcr 01-25-2017 12:13 PM

Gotcha.

As stated, the Logic setting is what should change the function. Good luck and post some pics when your done with the install. It should look great!

billh1963 01-25-2017 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spedrcr (Post 9447187)
Gotcha.

As stated, the Logic setting is what should change the function. Good luck and post some pics when your done with the install. It should look great!

All done! The logic setting did it.

Radio works great and looks even better. Will post a picture tomorrow.

Koizumi 01-25-2017 05:28 PM

I'm very tempted to get one of these units. I have an 80s Alpine pullout installed and I'm afraid that the chopped up wiring will give me woes.

billh1963 01-25-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koizumi (Post 9447577)
I'm very tempted to get one of these units. I have an 80s Alpine pullout installed and I'm afraid that the chopped up wiring will give me woes.

Slow and steady does it. I think the wiring colors from the 80's still match modern stereo wiring colors. My wires did to a large extent and I was able to use a pin out drawing from my old stereo to verify all the wires as a sanity check. I soldered all my wiring connections to insure good connections.

The new unit isn't that expensive and does look good. Give it a try!

Koizumi 01-25-2017 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billh1963 (Post 9447625)
Slow and steady does it. I think the wiring colors from the 80's still match modern stereo wiring colors. My wires did to a large extent and I was able to use a pin out drawing from my old stereo to verify all the wires as a sanity check. I soldered all my wiring connections to insure good connections.



The new unit isn't that expensive and does look good. Give it a try!



Thanks for the encouragement. I did read that there is a harness that was available. Is this something that I would need seeing as I don't have a stock radio? My Alpine is the classic 80s pullout with the green light up buttons.

I've been waiting forever for a modern Bluetooth headunit that looks good in a 3.2!

spedrcr 01-26-2017 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koizumi (Post 9447801)
Thanks for the encouragement. I did read that there is a harness that was available. Is this something that I would need seeing as I don't have a stock radio? My Alpine is the classic 80s pullout with the green light up buttons.

I've been waiting forever for a modern Bluetooth headunit that looks good in a 3.2!

I would bet your 80's Alpine harness/connectors would suffice as the ISO Connector (which is what the Continental takes) has been around for years. To be sure, and most likely to clean up the install when you put in the Continental, get an ISO Universal connector from Tore

Universal ISO harness - Car Audio - Products

Great guy to deal with, quality product at fantastic price and no shipping charges from Norway!!! While you are at it, pick up the cool little Porsche stickers he makes to cover the Continental logo-makes the radio look even more OEM

Porsche sticker - Car Audio - Products

All in and ready for anything at $18!

billh1963 01-26-2017 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koizumi (Post 9447801)
Thanks for the encouragement. I did read that there is a harness that was available. Is this something that I would need seeing as I don't have a stock radio? My Alpine is the classic 80s pullout with the green light up buttons.

I've been waiting forever for a modern Bluetooth headunit that looks good in a 3.2!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZGCYF0S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$6.99

billh1963 01-26-2017 10:48 AM

Sorry for poor picture....I removed the knobs to get clearance for installation. Don't have the fog light one screwed back in. Also, the clear cover is still on the radio display.

I think the radio looks darn good in the dash.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1485456484.jpg

Koizumi 01-27-2017 10:44 AM

That's it, I'm ordering one!

PS. Looks great!

PSS. Now I need to figure out which door speakers to get!

ganun 01-27-2017 11:08 AM

Looks great, very period....conti logo is cool but I like the VDO version of the same radio.... goes with the clock better than the tires ;)

billh1963 01-27-2017 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganun (Post 9449643)
Looks great, very period....conti logo is cool but I like the VDO version of the same radio.... goes with the clock better than the tires ;)

Actually, I like to think of the Porsche 356 Continental ;)

Koizumi 01-27-2017 03:23 PM

For those who have installed the Continental Radio....a wiring question
 
I just ordered one!!

And a sticker too!!

spedrcr 01-28-2017 07:46 AM

Billh1963-radio looks great. Congrats on the update.

Lake Guy 01-30-2017 06:47 AM

Where did you purchase your continental radios? I'm not finding a retailer easily

billh1963 01-30-2017 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lake Guy (Post 9452860)
Where did you purchase your continental radios? I'm not finding a retailer easily

12 Volt Radios

RDM 01-30-2017 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koizumi (Post 9449602)
That's it, I'm ordering one!

PS. Looks great!

PSS. Now I need to figure out which door speakers to get!

I'd like some help with door speakers as well. The ones I bought interfere with the window motor.

82680 03-06-2017 02:58 PM

I just ordered one today from eguages.com. $158 free shipping.

82680 03-07-2017 07:20 AM

Make that egauges.com

billh1963 03-07-2017 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82680 (Post 9501182)
Make that egauges.com

Yes...that's the link I posted on past #21.

Best prices I have found.

82680 03-10-2017 04:03 AM

I just installed on in my '83 Targa, replacing an old Alpine. I can't figure out what to hook up the Illumination wire to? What is it's function?

911tuna 03-10-2017 07:42 PM

Just had the Continental unit installed in my 1985 Targa. Looks great. One question: does anyone know if the unit has balance/fade controls? Can't seem to find them and not getting sound from my front speakers. Likely a wiring issue but want to rule out a fade setting before digging back in to the installation.

spedrcr 03-12-2017 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911tuna (Post 9506560)
Just had the Continental unit installed in my 1985 Targa. Looks great. One question: does anyone know if the unit has balance/fade controls? Can't seem to find them and not getting sound from my front speakers. Likely a wiring issue but want to rule out a fade setting before digging back in to the installation.

I too thought the same. Read the very brief manual closely as there are instructions in there for accessing those features. If I recall correctly you have to access it from the "non-clock" screen.

spedrcr 03-12-2017 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 82680 (Post 9505247)
I just installed on in my '83 Targa, replacing an old Alpine. I can't figure out what to hook up the Illumination wire to? What is it's function?

I wired my illumination wire to the dash lights; tapped the defrost light just to the left of the radio opening. Function is that the lighting for the Continental unit comes on with the headlamps. That way you can find the power knob at night to turn on the radio. Looks great and nice to easily find the "on" button in the dark.

Jack Stands 03-12-2017 07:26 AM

I see they're available with either orange or blue led illumination, with or without CD, Aand with OT without Bluetooth. Best looking radio that looks period correct.

Any opinions on the blue vs. orange illumination? What looks best?

911tuna 03-12-2017 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Stands (Post 9507899)
I see they're available with either orange or blue led illumination, with or without CD, Aand with OT without Bluetooth. Best looking radio that looks period correct.

Any opinions on the blue vs. orange illumination? What looks best?

I went with orange and it looks great. Feels more "period" correct to me than blue. IMHO.

911tuna 03-12-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spedrcr (Post 9507876)
I too thought the same. Read the very brief manual closely as there are instructions in there for accessing those features. If I recall correctly you have to access it from the "non-clock" screen.

Thanks. You were correct, it is in the instructions, guess I just missed it the first time.

911tuna 03-12-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911tuna (Post 9508187)
I went with orange and it looks great. Feels more "period" correct to me than blue. IMHO.

Here is the orange. I have a Palm Green interior which definitely influences whether to go with orange or blue but even with a black interior would go with orange. (Included with and without flash)http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1489349614.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1489349614.JPG

Jack Stands 03-12-2017 03:47 PM

That does look like a proper radio for a 911 dash!

vdubpower 03-20-2017 11:19 PM

hows the quality of the sound for these? comparable to the big names?

eshtog 03-20-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911tuna (Post 9508289)
Here is the orange. I have a Palm Green interior which definitely influences whether to go with orange or blue but even with a black interior would go with orange. (Included with and without flash)

Looks great! Where did you source the "Porsche" logo to cover up the "Continental" logo?

pc100porsche 04-08-2017 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eshtog (Post 9519577)
Looks great! Where did you source the "Porsche" logo to cover up the "Continental" logo?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^

Koizumi 04-08-2017 06:45 PM

Got mine from a very nice Gent here: https://www.bergvillfx.com/index.php/products/car-audio/porsche-sticker-label.html

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...ab1cae3bdc.jpg

vdubpower 04-08-2017 09:02 PM

thinking of getting this continental radio vs a pioneer BT 390 model, which would also have the basic needs at about 80 bucks....i agree the Conti looks better but that aspect is secondary

my porsche has the cd2 model stereo which is from alpine i believe and the amp under the passenger seat.......i guess i have to by pass the OE amp with either radio choice....is that what most of ya'll did..

i would love to do the install myself...but havent really ever done any soldering...and dont want to butcher anything either...

flat6_911 04-09-2017 05:35 AM

Installed mine last week. Bought the ISO adapter to clean up the PO's wiring. Happy with the look of it. Bluetooth works great as well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1491741313.jpg


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