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Control Arm Bushings question

I am in the process of replacing my front suspension pan and wanted to replace the control arm bushings while I have them out .It is on a 1977 911 . I do not want a harsh ride so I am fine with stock bushings. My question is , I have found them from 26 dollars a set to 110 a set from Patrick, to 225 a set from Elephant racing. Is there any difference betwen them if They are all stock?

Also has anyone posted a how to on here showing how to install them

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The Elephant Racing rubber bushings are high quality and provide a good ride. They will be similar to OE quality. I used them on my '75 (replaced with all rubber bushings on car) and have been happy with the results.

The set from Patrick Motorsports is made from delrin, which will make the ride harsher.
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Ditto. Elephant in mine too. World of difference and world class customer support.
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Just buy them from Porsche 914.341.422.00
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+1 on the Elephant rubber bushings. Just installed a set a few months ago and am happy with them thus far.
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+3 Elephant.They have an excellent video of the installation process and a pair of tools to get the job done. I,d do it again in a heart beat. Support and advice priceless.
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Can someone please tell me what the correct angle is for both the front and rear bushing mounts are. I cannot find them.

I will be ordering the ER bushing today.

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Can someone please tell me what the correct angle is for both the front and rear bushing mounts are?

I will be ordering the ER bushings today

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You're doing the correct thing. I went through an ordeal with Rebel Racing. This is what I ended up with.



Rebel Racing parts are a work of art. On the other hand there is absolutely no customer support.

Rubber bushings are the way to go.

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Elephant Racing's bushing kit is a great upgrade, as everyone has mentioned. Can check them out and a few reviews about them here: 1977 Porsche 911 S Coupe - Suspension Upgrades & Performance - Page 2. Someone posted good info about the ease of installing them yourself.
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+1 on Elephant. Chuck has produced an excellent product.







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Street 911?

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Just buy them from Porsche 914.341.422.00
I replaced the old & tired stock a-arm bushings on my 73 with new OEM rubber Pelican bushings for about $30 for the front and a little more for the rear set. The real issue was just simply age & wear. A 77 is well due for new bushings. What is your objective? Repair to stock, street race, or track race? Where do you drive? Stock rubber is smooth and urethane can be noisy. I have urethane in the 454 shop truck rear swing arms for a purpose; the makin' a 100 foot 11 burn out torque. The Elephant & Rebel parts are super sweet but pricey. Make yourself happy.
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If aftermarket is so much superior, it would be nice to know what Elephant does that OEM doesn't
If I ever get the courage to do mine, I will go OEM.
If they were good as stock for 20+ years, they're fine as a replacement.

They are bushings. This seems as simple a part as it gets.
Prevents metal on metal contact. Exactly how much better can this be made?
Everything I've read about street use cars says to avoid hard Poly bushings.
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Anyone know the part number for front control arm bushings? (1986)
The Pelican site only sells Uro and Daystar. 99-3014-340-M523
Is there an OEM option?
I don't see the bushings listed separately in the PET.
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Other than visually inspecting the bushings what are the dynamics (ride, steering, etc) that are apparent when the control arm bushings are worn or have degraded?
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As a rule, I normally question everything. I wonder what and why the Elephant parts are superior? Has anyone tested or analyzed the rubber? Are these a repackaged item with a locating tool? I went with Powerflex on all my bushing for my 87 and they've worked out great. I know that Elephant has a great reputation and for the most part, seem to know their stuff, but the Porsche tax on these parts seems HEAVY. This is especially the case when the Porsche parts retail for $15.00 a bushing new.
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I went with the URO ones for my '87 from the advice of my wrench. I think they're fine.
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With that many washers, something has to be bent....

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You're doing the correct thing. I went through an ordeal with Rebel Racing. This is what I ended up with.



Rebel Racing parts are a work of art. On the other hand there is absolutely no customer support.

Rubber bushings are the way to go.

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I have the elephant rubber for a couple of years and they are great. I think the OEM are only available by buying new a-arms. The others low cost options fitted loose.
I think that these guys are the real manufacturers, Pelican should source from them in Slovenia.
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Bushes have been available from Porsche for years with a 914 Part Number as separate parts.

Porsche have recently made new mould tooling for the bush as the identification numbers have changed and the price increased.

The Prekom Bushes are a slightly different size to the genuine Porsche bush and they create a higher level of radial compression than in the Prekom bushes as the central hole is smaller.

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