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Sputters when cold

My 83 SC coupe starts like a champ when cold, however often will sputter (miss?) when I try to give some gas. Once I start driving it does not do this at all ( throttle is responsive, revs well). It only seems to be right when I first start it up?

Any idea what might be causing this problem?

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Wonder if this might be a CIS issue...? Warm and cold start problems are common with CIS issues, as well as backfiring and poor performance at startup. Bump, any Pelicans got input for this gentlemen? I posted some info on the CIS below so be sure to take a look at it. Hope you get this figured out.

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Worked on a couple - but no deep experience.
I'll offer some resources and recommend you keep an eye open for Tony (Boyt on here) if he's not on vacation.
CIS Troubleshooting for Dummies

911 CIS Primer - Index

Troubleshooting chart from above site:
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could be many things.
you could have an air leak at a cylinder
could be one or several injectors that are not optimal
could be something as easy as the mixture needs just a small adjustment.
timing
ignition, plugs, cap rotor, wires.
fuel pressure.

if it was my car I would start with fuel pressures. cold and warm
I would also look at the plugs to see if any are different than the others, probably right after a cold start. maybe even put in a new set and check them.
I have an LM2 so I would check the mixture.
if you don't have one I would pull the O2 sensor connector (puts it in open loop) and drive it and see how it runs,
then I would check the frequency valve with O2 connected and engine warm.
check timing and advance.

if none of this pointed to anything I might lean it out then richen it. (I have the LM so I can set it back). I don't suggest this unless you know what you are doing. if still nothing I would check injectors for flow volume and spray. I would also check for air leaks,. check the intake bolts.

not knowing the history of the car I might look at the temp sensor. could be bad and in open loop, or closed loop all the time.


things like this can take a lot of time. don't throw money at it. test and eliminate. I spent years working on issues like this on my 77 but I may have only worked on it once every 3 or 4 months.
about the only thing I would drop money on is a tune up, new wires and perhaps injectors depending on the age/miles.
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