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SpyderMike 05-20-2017 10:38 AM

Is this Backdate part available out there?
 
I am in the midst of backdating my 1985:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/819396-so-how-backdate-project-starts-8.html

and I was fitting the new sheetmetal fenders and front bumper. It all went well. I am now staring at the car and pondering the hood/lid solution. I know there are fiberglass parts out there, but I am sticking with metal. I know there are people who will weld onto my hood the extension, but I found that solution doesn't pencil out. I will not be grafting a new front end on the car (I am looking for as much a bolt on solution as possible).

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1495303984.jpg

So I wonder, is there anyone who has developed a piece that bolts to the front end to mimic the shape of the long hood overhang? Please don't give up on me yet. It seems that this part could easily be installed and adjusted for a real tight lid front lip match to minimize the seam line.

Someone has had to do this, right? Looking for pictures if they are out there please.

dwelle 05-20-2017 10:57 AM

gotta find a way to extend that hood. unfortunately there is no easy way to do it.

there has to be someone in so cal that can make it happen for reasonable $$. did you ever connect with dave to see if he was doing more of them?

not sure you'll be happy otherwise...

SpyderMike 05-20-2017 11:40 AM

I did reach out to Dave, no reply yet. I like what Uwon did to his hood...grafting the latchplate area to the longhood. It looks really clean:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1495309235.jpg

Dpmulvan 05-20-2017 12:34 PM

Buy a used hood and do some trials, sketch something up and have at it. You can get by with an angle grinder, cutoff wheels, harbor freight English wheel and a mig.

SpyderMike 05-20-2017 02:04 PM

TRE makes those metal conversion parts. AASE has them as well. They are welded onto your existing fenders. I think they want about $600 per pair.

TRE's website looks like a work in progress...

Here is AASE's:

https://www.**************/products/e8j-a73-210t-105626

JJ 911SC 05-20-2017 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpyderMike (Post 9594928)

Competition filter is working :D:):D

SpyderMike 05-20-2017 03:32 PM

Of course...my bad. Pelican doesn't have such an item to my knowledge. Go to that website and search backdate and the parts come up. Or insert that website's name in the link.

Sebscst 05-21-2017 04:13 AM

So if you just want something to fill in that void it would have to be custom. I backdated my sc with a tre longhood but did not backdate the slam panel. This left the same void you have but under my hood . I went to my local hardware store and bought some galvanized expanded metal and fab this up with just some tin snips.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1495368717.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1495368810.jpg

Sebscst 05-21-2017 04:23 AM

You could do something similar and use your horn grill mounts as the attachment points. A metal shop should be able to fab this up if you make a template.

dwelle 05-21-2017 10:50 AM

uwon's fix is very elegant. i briefly considered that route.

but by the time you buy a long hood and put the hours in to get it all right, have you really saved any money over the other options available? if you had a long hood laying around, i get it. otherwise it seems cost prohibitive.

all said, i think you'll still be in the ballpark of what marc zurlinden sells his hoods for, at least that is the conclusion i arrived at for my car...

Flojo 05-22-2017 01:24 AM

this helps?

Quote:

Originally Posted by metalracer (Post 9103310)
Yes, pics are on their way later this week but in the meantime, here is a pic of the first hood we did, detailing one approach to the hood release.

Yes, these will be available as an outright purchase but an additional "core" fee will be charged when we cannot receive a good donor hood in exchange; typical core/exchange type of a program.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1462196477.jpg


Joe Bob 05-22-2017 04:51 AM

What price on the hood above?

SpyderMike 05-22-2017 07:57 AM

I was quoted $2200 ($2800 without core). Add to that the value of your hood/lid, sales tax, shipping both ways, and painting; it is pricey. That prompts me to consider other options.

dwelle 05-22-2017 07:59 AM

$2200 with a core exchange...

Joe Bob 05-22-2017 09:50 AM

I have two short hoods, will be taking hem to my local guy to have the short hoods modified to a long hood. I will add an extension on to the latch as I now have to warp it a bit to get my hand into release it.

I will take pics and provide contact for the guy as he seems receptive to duplication the effort for others.

BTW, the FG glass longhood will be available for sale.....it has the latch location in the SC location.

SpyderMike 05-22-2017 10:14 AM

JB,
Do you have a price for his work? Why two? How much do you want for your fiberglass one?

Sebscst, I forgot to mention that I like your approach. Seems like some fiberglass whiz could make a solid panel like your mesh, but follow the top curve and put a horizontal and vertical flats on it to make a close piece. It could easily bolt in from the trunk using existing holes. The top seam could be made to fit very tightly to the hood/lid it seems.

I do have more pictures of Marc Z's work during construction - it is a very nicely done modification for sure.

It is just that my brain wonders if there isn't another way.

Joe Bob 05-22-2017 10:47 AM

I will post it when I get it.....

will hung 05-23-2017 05:16 AM

Just thinking out loud, I read on here once that you could simply get a steel long hood, and mount it with no hood latch and then use rubber tie downs like the ones used on factory lightweight 911's or hood pins that lock to hold the hood down.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1495545364.jpg

Cook&Dunning 05-23-2017 05:25 AM

I wonder if Restoration Design or other could fabricate the leading edge piece of hood to make short hood in to a long hood? I seem to recall someone did ask them a few years ago, but at the time they felt there were enough long hoods out there and there wasn't a market. Maybe there is a market now?

Elombard 05-23-2017 07:32 AM

YOu can buy that piece to convert a short to long from Fenn Lane. I installed it on my car.


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