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Ok mr multimeter....i need help. Got first gauge out. Oil and fuel. Oil goes straight up on start fuel sits at empty. Cleaned it all i have my multimeyer ready. There are 2 brown (ground?) 2 blue and yellow 2 black with bulbs and one brown with silver stripes........what do i do to test? The black seem to be reading 24v.
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Is that the oil level gauge you are referring to (the typical combo gauge with fuel level) - not oil pressure? Regardless, typically when a gauge pegs at the top of its scale, it means that there is power there by the sensor signal wire is not making contact with the sensor (is either disconnected, wire broken, or corrosion build up . . . or bad ground connection for sensor), so check out the wires on the oil tank level sender that is on the side of the oil tank (behind right rear wheel).

Fuel sitting at empty "might" mean it is not getting power. Can you take a pic of the back of the gauge and post it? Will be easier to give accurate advice (at least somewhat accurate) and not get confused by your cars conversion to the later style gauges.

You should not see 24v anywhere on the car unless you have two, 12v car batteries wired in series.

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Yes. I have used the metal ones on my 81 which are a wee bit taller. Metal ones like to slide on a smooth concrete floor. The plastic compound ones have a rubber pad that bites.
Bob, you forgot to mention that you have to stack three of them B.A.B.s on top of each other in order for you to get under your 911!

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Bob, you forgot to mention that you have to stack three of them B.A.B.s on top of each other in order for you to get under your 911!
My belly is not really a six pack. It's more of a one pack. I mean, if those ergonomic balls are considered a "pack".



Thanks for hurting my feelings after I promised to be nice here.

The ol' BAB will carry on.

You have a great day, Raw.

Thank you for your thoughtful opinion.
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Am mailing you a 30 pack of Stones to make up for my insensitivity about your one-pack . . . or should I send 60?!?!?


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The ol' BAB will carry on.
Just saying in a kinder, gentler voice..........

I cherish the times when we fixed that van up and just cruised around.

You were a friend then.

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What happened to the "Free Candy & Puppies" signage?!?!


PS - Queenie is going to be upset with the "wild boars"!
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What happened to the "Free Candy & Puppies" signage?!?!

PS - Queenie is going be upset with the "wild boars"!
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A high compliment from KinkyKarl - thanks, Bro!!!
Ya mann! Hope all's well with ya Ronski! Am luvin photo of you and Bobo doin the XmasTango! Great form

Queener... Pardon me while I mess with Ronski. BTW, nice to have you here. Adds a fine dimension.
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KinkyKarlicious, Bob is an excellent, all-season Tango partner, as are you, my swampland friend - two of the best "swingers" on Pelican!

And agreed - most excellent to be graced with the Queen's presence, fa' sho'!!!

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Is that the oil level gauge you are referring to (the typical combo gauge with fuel level) - not oil pressure?

Would a 912 have an oil level gauge? I don't think the four bangers are dry sump'd.
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Ha! Great tuneage selection, Bobasaurous (ya' eff'in BAB!)!


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Would a 912 have an oil level gauge? I don't think the four bangers are dry sump'd.
Good gawd - I keep forgetting about the 912 wiff 914 engine scenario!

Queenie, my previous comment about the gauge pegging at the top of the range still applies, so check the connection at the oil pressure sending unit. It is near the crankcase breather on a VW Type IV engine (what you have) - breather is on centerline of case at the fan end.

Do you know what the sending sending unit looks like?

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OK well I got impulsive and removed the gauge. Took it apart, cleaned all the connections and redid the ground connections. Take a peek....



One of the blades didn't have a wire to it so i hooked up a ground and tested it......
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And guess what?!



It worked! The "oil" gauge works and so does the fuel.....


better lucky than good. This gave me confidence to tackle the next non functional one"



So I did the same thing. This time, since the one bulb that was working had a jump wire (I checked with the lucky lady multimeter) i attached a jump from the 3 o'clock bulb to the 6 and removed the dead wire from the one next to the speedo cable. Cleaned the nasty gook off of the face, and checked the gears that looked normal. put it back in. will have to wait tilll tomorrow to see if the speedo works, but at least the lights work!
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1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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OK didn't tackle this next one because this is what it looks like....egads, no idea here. A special treat from the PO. He had painted all of the wires black...yes solid black...really.

The tachometer from hell. Notice the missing bulbs and lots of extra unplugged wires...

Anyone want to take a gander at this one???

queen
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1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Ha! Great tuneage selection, Bobasaurous (ya' eff'in BAB!)!




Good gawd - I keep forgetting about the 912 wiff 914 engine scenario!

Queenie, my previous comment about the gauge pegging at the top of the range still applies, so check the connection at the oil pressure sending unit. It is near the crankcase breather on a VW Type IV engine (what you have) - breather is on centerline of case at the fan end.

Do you know what the sending sending unit looks like?
I am embarrassed to say I have no idea what a crankcase breather or a sending unit is....let alone what they look like.
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1966 912R Coupe Stone Grey outlaw -"'Tilda"
1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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Excellent progress, Queenie!

And per the post #s93 and 94, can you confirm what exactly is being measured via the oil level gauge, since 914 engines are not dry sump and do not use a separate oil supply like 911s are/do (no oil tank, which is what that gauge measures the level of).

Is your engine somehow modified for this? I'm very curious about that . . .
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Is that the oil level gauge you are referring to (the typical combo gauge with fuel level) - not oil pressure? Regardless, typically when a gauge pegs at the top of its scale, it means that there is power there by the sensor signal wire is not making contact with the sensor (is either disconnected, wire broken, or corrosion build up . . . or bad ground connection for sensor), so check out the wires on the oil tank level sender that is on the side of the oil tank (behind right rear wheel).

Fuel sitting at empty "might" mean it is not getting power. Can you take a pic of the back of the gauge and post it? Will be easier to give accurate advice (at least somewhat accurate) and not get confused by your cars conversion to the later style gauges.

You should not see 24v anywhere on the car unless you have two, 12v car batteries wired in series.
OK I am silly.....that was 24 mV not volts. It was not a live wire until I turned on the lights and then it became 12V as expected. thanks
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1978 924 White with Cork (Streetcar vs. Porsche - streetcar won)"Poindexter"
1984 924s Nile Green Metallic with bone (totaled it in the snow in Cleveland, Ohio)
1983 911 White with Cherry Red...gave away (not enough time or money to keep it running) in 2001
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