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echecsqueen 06-20-2017 07:20 PM

Perlon sticky and super scratchy
 
Ordered Perlon carpet kit for frunk of my 88 911. From world upholstery. It has been in place for a couple of months and is still off gassing a really noxious plastic odor. Also the carpet is grossly tacky on the underside and scratchy almost like fiberglass. Is this normal?

Uwon 06-21-2017 04:48 AM

No!

echecsqueen 06-23-2017 10:32 PM

Thanks

chris_seven 06-23-2017 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uwon (Post 9634550)
No!

100% Agree

Perlon is just a needle felt and shouldn't be either sticky or smelly

Similar materials are used a Van Liners and sold as Veltrim and we buy 30m rolls and have ever seen these issues.

echecsqueen 06-24-2017 01:04 AM

Thanks all - I sent an email to world upholstery. Will see what they say.

AHudson 06-24-2017 10:52 AM

I had the original needle felt in my car, no odor or scratchiness at all.

As an option (and it was one from Porsche) you can consider getting the cut pile carpet like the interior from AppBiz. I am super pleased with this nicer, neater, richer material in my car. Just something to consider.

UPDATE: Can't find the 'black plush' any more on AppBiz or Pelican; found it here - http://www.***************/domestic-trunk-carpet-kits-plush-black-with-black-vinyl-edge-binding-for-911-930-porsche-1986-1889.html

echecsqueen 06-25-2017 05:59 PM

I am going to see what "world upholstery" says - if that doesn't work out I will just make my own using the icky "perlon" as a pattern. I haven't been able to get patterns or templates for any of this or would have sewn my own from the start....

echecsqueen 06-27-2017 10:02 AM

Here is the response from World Upholstery - wow "it is what it is"?? off gassing and feels like fiberglass - YUCK

Hello Marilyn,

It is what it is unfortunately. There's only one source of "perlon". Admittedly it's not as good as perlon back in the 70s and 80s but it's true for everything else nowadays. New manufacturing techniques, cost cutting, etc. There's really not much we can do about it. We'll take it back if you haven't installed it but you really won't find any better "perlon" out there. You're going to have to use a different lining material.

Mars

-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:03 AM
To: support@worlduph.com
Subject: Re: World Upholstery & Trim Online Order

Hello
I received your perlon trunk liner and the fit was perfect. I do have to comment that the material is still off-gassing and makes my eyes water. It is also very scratchy tike fiberglass. This is not how perlon normally is! Is this a different perlon substitute? I can’t handle this item with bare hands without getting scratches. Although your price was excellent, I cannot recommend this product as it is nothing like any perlon I have used before.
Please advise,
Thanks

MARISOL78sc 06-27-2017 10:24 AM

Wow, talk about terrible customer service!. "Admittedly it's not as good as perlon back in the 70s and 80s but it's true for everything else nowadays. New manufacturing techniques, cost cutting, etc. There's really not much we can do about it." They should put that on their site. I've never used WU but after reading this will not in the future.

echecsqueen 06-27-2017 11:31 PM

I know! Right? They don't even dispute that the product can't be handled with bare hands! If they know that and that it off gasses like poisonous plastic why on earth are they selling it?

Uwon 06-28-2017 05:33 PM

That has got to be the dummest response I have seen in a long time! Time for a phone call to a higher up manager!
Johan

appbiz 08-09-2017 08:22 AM

Bob at Appbiz here
 
We have our Perlon custom made thousands of yards at a time. You can not buy it off the shelf. I have no idea where World Upholstery gets what the call Perlon, but they don't buy it from us.
Ours does not have an odor and is as accurate as it gets.
Bob
Appbiz

DRACO A5OG 08-09-2017 10:07 AM

They should rename it Pricklon, the fake Perlon :D Horrible and I bet they priced it high to boot.

joefrantz 08-09-2017 12:30 PM

Another couple of thoughts:

Who installed it, and did you see,touch or smell it before installation?

The perlon that I installed (about ten years ago) was quite thin and very easy to oversaturate with glue.
If the installer did so, the issues you are describing could be coming from the glue.

tailwind22 08-09-2017 01:23 PM

Just received and installed an App Biz RS perlon kit. Installed perfect with none of the attributes you cited.

RSBob 08-09-2017 01:49 PM

Did a full perlon interior install from Appbiz. Very pleased with their product with none of the unpleasantness you mentioned above. Pics of the install has appeared in numerous threads as an example of a good looking interior carpet. Great stuff.

echecsqueen 08-11-2017 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joefrantz (Post 9694023)
Another couple of thoughts:

Who installed it, and did you see,touch or smell it before installation?

The perlon that I installed (about ten years ago) was quite thin and very easy to oversaturate with glue.
If the installer did so, the issues you are describing could be coming from the glue.

It was for the trunk so no glue was used. I received the "perlon" from World Upholstery and immediately placed it in my trunk. I thought the off gassing would go away soon. I "installed" the snaps to fit my trunk which made it non-returnable. I was wearing gloves so did not appreciate the fiberglass cuts until the first time I lifted the carpet with my bare hands.

Take-home message....don't buy from World Upholstery if you want a quality product or customer service.

flat6pilot 08-11-2017 12:42 PM

Another +1 for Appbiz. I have their Perlon kit in my interior and no smell or itchiness whatsoever.


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