Sachs Power clutch kit

[proporsche]

Hello Boys and girl..
i want to pick your brain.
I have recently purchased Power clutch kit -actually not me but a friend who i am doing an engine job for.
So we got our-self this Power clutch kit..alu. pressure plate and better friction clutch disc.
If i compare the price from Pelican it is nowhere to be close to $ 850 our price $440..
That is actually cool price but .I am skeptical why so much difference in price.
The kit i have is made by Sachs in Slovakia.That could be the answer.
If any one bought recently the same clutch where was it made?

I have asked around ,people are using this clutch but again where does your come from...?

thanx for any re:
Ivan
the power clutch kit form Pelican has a standard clutch dis+alu press. plate on the web page. Mine has this one and alu press.plate

[proporsche]

i have to add ....i would rather pay Pelican price if i know it is a quality product,which i think it is...it is not about the money for me ...but i would like to know the difference...
thanx
Ivan

[proporsche]

Nobody has used this type of clutch??
If yes the origin where was manufactured....
thanx
Ivan

[reclino]

I would be interested in knowing what vender you bought it from? International shipping is no that bad.

[reclino]

I believe I have the same pressure plate purchased in the US I will post some close up pictures of the markings when I get home.
David

[proporsche]

Hi David
like i said i usually buy if i need something from Pelican or other USA sellers.I am in France but got burned from some local European Porsche suppliers with their trash-Chines spare parts.
That is the reason i`m looking for quality and origin of these clutch kits.The kit i have is made in Slovakia ,i assume it is ok but i need some proof....
Ivan
mail sent....

[boyt911sc]

Ivan,

The aluminum pressure plate that I got from PP exactly looks exactly like yours shown in the picture. But I do not remember if the clutch disc was the same as yours (mine already installed). If my memory serves me right, the kit was about $800+. And I also have a NIB steel pressure plate by Sach also made in Slovakia purchased some years ago.

So if you buy today a set of aluminum pressure plate and clutch disc from our host, you will probably received the same products made in Slovakia. I have used steel pressure plates made from Slovakia and encountered no problem so far. But have not used aluminum pressure plate. Interested to see other people experience.

Tony

[proporsche]

Ho Tony
cool..finally some words--so the Company has moved some of its production to Slovakia...I know of one headquarters in Weiden in Germany i drive by often.On Monday my friend is going to call them to find out more details, i wonder if he will?;-)
This could be the price difference then between local European seller and PP...but that much ?
My set was 411 euros almost half price...bizarre...that is the reason i`m looking if the quality is the same as PP products...
lets see if someone has used this clutch disc...?

thanx

Ivan

[proporsche]

well? i did not really hear form anyone about this clutch ..here is an example..one person selling a Sachs clutch on ebay.uk..191715923301..seems like a good ebayer..

Is it a aftermarket Sachs ...?

i do have some inside story from Sachs in Weiden and Porsche but i cannot use it here...

ivan

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by proporsche

cool..finally some words--so the Company has moved some of its production to Slovakia...

It appears so in 1999. It states they shut down "Operations" in October, 2014.

If you have a Slovakia clutch pack, I probably do as well since I changed-out in 2008 with the same kit. I can't remember Slovakia stamped on it and I don't remember Germany either.

I have absolutely no confirmation this is the operations unit. It may just be the headquarters. It may be both.

https://www.emis.com/php/company-profile/SK/ZF_SACHS_Slovakia_as_en_1546122.html

[proporsche]

Thanx Bob...good info..i am in a bubble since i left USA ..still no idea about the price difference?
What do you think?
ivan

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by proporsche

Thanx Bob...good info..i am in a bubble since i left USA ..still no idea about the price difference?
What do you think?
ivan

I think you supplier sucked up excess inventory.

Believe you will be fine with it.

[proporsche]

hmm, interesting idea which actually makes sense...
thanx..Bob

ivan

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by proporsche

hmm, interesting idea which actually makes sense...
thanx..Bob

ivan

I remember my clutch in my 81 was stamped 1983 when I did the top end in 97. Mine had the rubber clutch from new so that makes sense.

Is there a date on yours? If it's three + years old, may support the theory?

Consider a new throw out bearing fork for insurance.

[proporsche]

if i can read it right my other German clutch kit is from 1997-disc 86

this new improved ;-) power clutch kit is from 2016 disc and plate

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by proporsche

this new improved ;-) power clutch kit is from 2016 disc and plate

It's definitely improved with more clamping force.

I would trust Sachs quality control.

Date says not an inventory dump.

[proporsche]

ok thank you

Ivan

[Targa_whaletail]

Hi guys,

Did you install the Sachs power clutch in the end? Looking at a new clutch for an '84 3.2 with 915 and either getting the Sachs OEM or Sachs Power clutch.

Concerned that for street use it would be easier to stall with the lighter aluminium power clutch?

Thanks!

[proporsche]

Hi ..yup i did used the clutch kit i had question about.It is just fine after finishing an engine and 1000 miles on it it performs very good.

Ivan

[Targa_whaletail]

Originally Posted by proporsche

Hi ..yup i did used the clutch kit i had question about.It is just fine after finishing an engine and 1000 miles on it it performs very good.

Ivan

Hi Ivan,

Thanks for this and sorry for the thread hijack.

What are the pros/cons of the power clutch? My 'net search last night suggested:
Pros:
- faster revving
Cons:
- heavier pedal feel
- easier to stall (especially on hill starts or in traffic)

Symptoms are screeching / squealing on some shifts. It also happened today with the clutch not pressed from stop (I revved the car), so I'm getting it checked before ordering any parts...

Current plan is to replace the clutch plate, pressure plate and release (throwout) bearing, as well as a Porsche OE clutch cable.

The full Pelican kit has a lot of items, and I really can't decide which of these are really important to do:

930-102-042-00-M157
1 Flywheel Pilot Bearing w/housing, 911 (1980-86), 911 Turbo (1979-88) from eng# 689 0505 (49 state) or 689 1232 (calif) (Brand: Rauch & Spiegel)

930-116-617-00-OEM
1 Helper Spring Spacers, 911 (1978-86)

424-427-INT
1 Clutch Cable, Brand: Gemo

900-027-015-03-OEM
9 B8 Lock Washer

900-036-016-02-OEM
1 Assembly Lower Cover, 911 (1978-86)
900-067-090-02-M260
9 Pressure Plate Bolt (sold per each, 9 required), 911 (1972-86) (Brand: O.E.M.)

900-095-050-00-OEM
1 Throw-Out Bearing Release Fork Roll Pin, 911/911 Turbo (1972-88)

900-234-502-01-OEM
1 Helper Spring Washer, 911 (1978-86)

999-701-209-40-OEM
1 Helper Spring Upper O-Ring, 7.3x2.4mm, 911 (1978-86)

999-701-359-40-M30
1 O-ring, 40x1.5, for 915 throwout guide tube, and late 914 shift shaft housing. (Brand: Elring Klinger)

N012-408-2-OEM
1 Helper Spring Upper Circlip, 911 (1978-86)

N-012-418-1-OEM
1 Throw-Out Lever Shaft Lower Circlip, 911 (1974-86), 911 Turbo (1976-88)

915-116-001-27-M38
1 Clutch Pressure Plate, Cast Iron, 225 mm, 911 (1972-86), 924 turbo (Brand: Sachs)

915-116-011-22-M38
1 Spring-Center Clutch Disc, 225 mm (Brand: Sachs)

915-116-064-01-M260
1 Clutch Arm Helper Spring, 911 (1978-86) (Brand: O.E.M.)

915-116-082-80-M38
1 Throw Out Bearing, 911 (1972-86) (Brand: Sachs)

915-301-139-00-M30
3 Throw-Out Lever Seal (sold per each), 911 (1972-77, 1 req.), 911 (1976-77, 3 req.), 911 Turbo (1976-77, 2 req.) (Brand: Elring Klinger)

PEL-TOL-CA2
1 Clutch Alignment Tool, (Spline count = 20; Pilot diameter = 14.9 mm; Spline diameter = 22.2 mm)

915-116-614-02-M260
1 Backlash Spring, 911/911 Turbo (1977-86) (Brand: O.E.M.)

915-116-712-03-M136
1 Release Bearing Fork, Brand: O.E.M. Note: (Brand: O.E.M.)

930-102-206-00-M127
9 Flywheel Bolt, Crankshaft to Flywheel (sold per each) (Brand: German)

999-113-426-41-M204
1 Flywheel Seal, 924S/944/968 All, 911/911 Turbo (1978-89), 996 Turbo (2001-03) (Brand: Kaco)