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rywats 08-31-2017 07:03 PM

Why does my sc have thermal reactors?
 
As the title says... I thought these were only pre-78.

More in depth, what's the best way to remove them? I put on a Dansk exhaust this evening and was having a look. Am I pretty much limited to the sawzall collector method or is there another way?

The bits are extremely hard to get at. Note: they are not barrel nuts on there currently, so they must have been off at some point?

Also, I have all the oil lines required for the SSI install, can I install these while the thermal reactors are still on the car?

Was going to do an oil change soon and figured that would be a good time.

Thanks in advance.
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boyt911sc 08-31-2017 07:21 PM

Picture please......
 
Do you have some pictures (top and bottom) of the engine? Are you sure you have a 3.0 SC motor? Thanks.

Tony

rywats 08-31-2017 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyt911sc (Post 9722377)
Do you have some pictures (top and bottom) of the engine? Are you sure you have a 3.0 SC motor? Thanks.

Tony

Yes, I'm sure.

al lkosmal 08-31-2017 09:17 PM

No SC engines with thermal reactors to my knowledge.......can you post your engine number an pix of the reactors/underside of the engine?

regards,
al
PS: excellent grille dude!

rywats 09-01-2017 05:28 AM

Al:

Weird thing is, it looks like I have the proper oil lines for the normal exhaust system.

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Dpmulvan 09-01-2017 05:29 AM

Makes no sense, pics??

Dpmulvan 09-01-2017 05:35 AM

That was weird our posts where seconds apart. I would remove and get some proper heat exchangers. Looks like somebody ran out of cash or was too cheap to buy new ones and had those laying around.

tshebib 09-01-2017 05:43 AM

That looks like a poor man's SSI solution.

Tom_in_NH 09-01-2017 05:48 AM

That sure looks like a 75-77 2.7 exhaust to me. I'll bet your car SSI on it, owner wanted to keep the SSI, and had this available to put on the SC.

rwest 09-01-2017 05:55 AM

According to the Red Book, that engine number is a US '82

rywats 09-01-2017 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_in_NH (Post 9722679)
That sure looks like a 75-77 2.7 exhaust to me. I'll bet your car SSI on it, owner wanted to keep the SSI, and had this available to put on the SC.

I never thought of that... however SSI don't fit with regular oil lines , correct?

Then he would have had to change all the oil lines back too.

Will I be able to fit my new SSI oil lines when the thermal reactors are still installed? (Was going to do it in stages)

rywats 09-01-2017 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwest (Post 9722684)
According to the Red Book, that engine number is a US '82

Yep, it's an '82

75 911s 09-01-2017 07:35 AM

previous owner pulled a fast one, put on some free garbage exhaust he had laying around, took the nice SSI for himself or another car. What a crime. Get those things off of there asap.

rywats 09-01-2017 07:44 AM

Anyone have any tricks for removal? It's quite hard to get st the nuts.

Ryan

Pichu 09-01-2017 07:48 AM

Hello fellow Edmontonian!

There's really no 'trick' to it, you need heat, all the tools, lots of patience, lots of height, room etc etc. When you have it all set up it can come off and when you start taking it apart it goes a slight bit easier... OR.. I chose to take them off the hard way on the bench :)

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Pichu 09-01-2017 07:50 AM

..worst case you can take it to Porsche Center in the west end, they have a few good techs. Will cost you $$ but probably cheaper than the damage those heat sinks will do to your heads in the long run.

zelrik911 09-03-2017 04:12 AM

Maybe your car was a 77 forward dated to a SC some time in the past & thats where the TRs came from ?? I had a car where this 'update was' done.

ossiblue 09-03-2017 08:25 AM

There is a slight possibility that those may be "gutted" shells and are only there for appearances, though there would be no need for that on an '82. Maybe it was a swap as others have mentioned but the OP did a favor and took out the high-heat catalyst inside. Get an infrared thermometer and see if there is a significant difference between the heated exhaust manifolds and the reactors. If so, they've got to go.

Flat6pac 09-03-2017 09:44 AM

The oil scavenge line isn't correct for thermal exhaust. The thermal engine used the forward oil scavenge like the SSI s require.
For some reason, they were on the cheap for the exhaust. Thermals are thick flange off the head.
Bruce

rywats 09-05-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ossiblue (Post 9725193)
There is a slight possibility that those may be "gutted" shells and are only there for appearances, though there would be no need for that on an '82. Maybe it was a swap as others have mentioned but the OP did a favor and took out the high-heat catalyst inside. Get an infrared thermometer and see if there is a significant difference between the heated exhaust manifolds and the reactors. If so, they've got to go.

I looked inside and they are empty. Is there normally mesh honeycomb or something of the sort?

Ryan


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