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KarlA 09-15-2017 08:48 PM

Two O2 sensors?
 
Hi there

Just about to remove the old cat and muffler ready for my new cat bypass / muffler (Monty)...

Noticed that there are two sensors on the old catalytic converter, one at the entry to the cat (first picture) and one at the exit of the cat / entry of the muffler (second picture).

Presume that one of them (the one at the entry of the cat) is the O2 sensor - what's the other one??

Also, my new cat bypass only has one hole... any ideas?

Thanks

Karlhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1505537205.jpg
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KarlA 09-15-2017 09:22 PM

Forgot to mention...
 
Forgot to mention it is a Japan delivered 1981 SC

KarlA 09-16-2017 12:55 AM

It's not on the parts list either...
 
6C on the drawing, but nothing to be found on the parts list... :confused:http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1505552108.png

Bill Verburg 09-16-2017 05:59 AM

The Japanese market cars had a temperature senor in addition to the o sensor

KarlA 09-16-2017 12:22 PM

Thanks Bill

Do I need to keep the temp sensor connected? It would mean drilling a hole and welding in a bung in my new shiny stainless cat bypass...

What happens if I don't connect it?

Karl

juanbenae 09-16-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Verburg (Post 9739596)
The Japanese market cars had a temperature senor in addition to the o sensor

where on the CIS system does it terminate? warm up regulator? or is it more like an EGR valve like the earlier 78-79 3.oL had?

Bill Verburg 09-16-2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlA (Post 9740004)
Thanks Bill

Do I need to keep the temp sensor connected? It would mean drilling a hole and welding in a bung in my new shiny stainless cat bypass...

What happens if I don't connect it?

Karl

Don't know I never looked into it.

Bill Verburg 09-16-2017 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 9740076)
where on the CIS system does it terminate? warm up regulator? or is it more like an EGR valve like the earlier 78-79 3.oL had?

Don't know I never looked into it.

juanbenae 09-16-2017 02:20 PM

maybe the OP can trace it back to where it lands for our knowledge base? if it turns to a hard copper line running to the back side of the CIS on the passenger side it may be akin to the earlier equipped EGR valve 3.oL motors.

curious minds want to know :)

86 911 Targa 09-16-2017 03:34 PM

Trivia...
 
There are four O2 sensors on our Subaru.

Gerry

KarlA 09-17-2017 02:13 AM

Followed the cables today, both go to the engine bay, but neither of them is connected...

I have found a connecting end for the temp sensor but not for the O2 sensor... where should that one be? (Where should the O2 sensor connect to?)

Thanks

Karl

Bill Verburg 09-17-2017 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86 911 Targa (Post 9740218)
There are four O2 sensors on our Subaru.

Gerry

From 1996 My all US cars are OBD2 compliant, this requires a pre & post cat. O sensor for each cat.

KarlA 09-20-2017 12:49 AM

Hi there

Still struggling to find where the O2 sensor connects to in the engine bay - any ideas anyone?

Thanks

Karl

76FJ55 09-20-2017 07:05 AM

O2 connector should be attached to a bracket mounted to the body below the fuel filter. The temp sensor would have originally triggered a light and buzzer to alert you the cat is overheating signaling you should shut down the engine. It will cause no I'll effects to just leave it off.

jrbennett 09-20-2017 07:23 PM

From what I remember the Japan spec 911s also have a light in the dash that displays (EX), it's between the tach and speedo, the same place as the US spec (O2) sensor light.
You can leave the sensor off, it will have no effect.

As for the O2 sensor plug it should be below the fuel accumulator and filter.

It's a yellowish/whit connection with a green wire on one side and a metal tab for the sensor to plug onto on the other end

Here's some pics from a Pelican Article

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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1505963966.JPG

KarlA 09-23-2017 05:04 AM

Thanks all, much appreciated

Karl


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