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All that work and money and its now out of sight.


Hahahahaha, yup. Can't seem to find that clear lexan cover I've been hearing about, although that exact thought did cross my mind. Simply because we all like to show off our goods..... the piece of mind is worth every penny and then some.

I couldn’t help myself..... thanks for the inspiration.


My additional CDD Autogear three fuse accessory block is exposed. I could call it "the teaser" with an arrow pointing right... the small flap is a 1/16” piece of high density foam placed there to protect the brass fittings from contact just incase I drop something from above. The supply line passes through it as well. This is something I added myself to prevent a possible short. Not elegant I know but functional.

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The extra 3 pole fuse panel would be ideal for 930 folks to install a separate fuse for the second fuel pump.
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Oh Bugs,
That OCD labeling made me feel so very happy and secure. A real trigger! Just to make you insanely jealous I thought I should share with you my permanent labeler....


yes, it stamps adhesive aluminum labels - Oh the Joy
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My "ReFuze" panel upgrade adventure

RLMAO! You ROCK!

Now I'm off to eBay and Craigslist....Aluminum! That's freaking awesome...
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[QUOTE=bugstrider;9793283]For a visual reference:


Thanks for the close-up of this option, this really helps to understand the design.
Sorry CDD Autogear for the "plastic" comment. I now see there is a nylon screw into a well designed brass insert.

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Hahahahaha, yup. Can't seem to find that clear lexan cover I've been hearing about, although that exact thought did cross my mind. Simply because we all like to show off our goods..... the piece of mind is worth every penny and then some.
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You could always cut a hole in the cover and install a lexan "window" to show off your goods.
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aluminum labels
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BX9IJGE/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Dymo metal embosser
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FD7Z7I/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


If anyone sources a clear fuse cover let me know
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Noted improvement measurement could be from cleaning up wiring, new panel, relays or all these. Didn't see in the article whether or not the relays were installed.
See the light with upgraded classic Porsche fuse panels - Ferdinand
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Noted improvement measurement could be from cleaning up wiring, new panel, relays or all these. Didn't see in the article whether or not the relays were installed.
See the light with upgraded classic Porsche fuse panels - Ferdinand
Our panels have the headlamp relays built in so they are always 'installed'.

Wolfgang bypassed the relays to do the comparison so all the other 'parameters' (wiring etc) are the same. He recorded an 18% improvement in light output using a calibrated light meter.
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Noted improvement measurement could be from cleaning up wiring, new panel, relays or all these. Didn't see in the article whether or not the relays were installed.
See the light with upgraded classic Porsche fuse panels - Ferdinand
As many of you know, and may have already installed them, headlight relays greatly improve lighting performance.

Installing the JWest headlight relay kit or equivalent when upgrading to a ReFuze panel set will brighten those lights. If you have already installed headlight relays they will interface with ReFuze exactly as they did with the OEM panel with no modification.

With their exact fit form factor, ReFuze panels interface with any relay solution that worked with the OEM block, whether it is a 356, a 912 or a 911.
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Bugs, thanks to your write up, I ordered mine and installed yesterday! I appreciated your tips.
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On MY install. I found that a few of the provided fuses were rated too low. They quickly popped and I replaced them with the proper rated ones. No issues since then.
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On MY install. I found that a few of the provided fuses were rated too low. They quickly popped and I replaced them with the proper rated ones. No issues since then.
mine was supplied with multiple wrong fuses too. I am picking some up for the test today.

CORRECTION:

Apparently there are not 8 amp blade style fuses readily available so the 7.5 fuses that were supplied with my kit are in fact the correct ones.
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Bugs, thanks to your write up, I ordered mine and installed yesterday! I appreciated your tips.


My pleasure on the write up. It was my way of paying it forward to all the great threads that have helped me out.

Besides, Alan builds such a quality upgrade to our cars, I attempted to give it the just credit it truly deserves.


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The terminals on our panels are metal:

Curious why the tiny resistors?

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They are current limiting resistors for the LED fault indicators.
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ATO fuses with built in LED blown fuse indicators are available. CDD suggests using those type fuses in ReFuze if that function is desired.
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Ferrules vs Tinning

Something I just researched was mentioned in this thread (using ferrules vs tinning):

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/29861/tinning-wires-that-will-be-screwed-in-to-a-chocolate-block-terminal-strip

To my surprise, it seems like it's suboptimal to tin the tips of wires used in screw terminals due to the way solder behaves under pressure (vs just twisting the wire and stuffing it in). Does that mean it will wiggle out in six months or that it will only last 40 years instead of 60? I dunno.

This is distinct from the discussion of solder vs crimping in general (wires can be susceptible to fatigue from vibration where the solder begins, but this is mitigable through the use of heat shrink tubing for stress relief).

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My "ReFuze" panel upgrade adventure

I do this type of work for a living...

You shouldn’t tin wires that get crimped (same applies to screw terminals) because solder is very ductile and flows over time with vibration, wires moving, etc. the result of this is reduced clamping pressure which can lead to intermittent connection and possible other long term issues.

The problems can manifest themselves in a short period of time so just avoid this approach.





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I do this type of work for a living...

You shouldn’t tin wires that get crimped (same applies to screw terminals) because solder is very ductile and flows over time with vibration, wires moving, etc. the result of this is reduced clamping pressure which can lead to intermittent connection and possible other long term issues.

The problems can manifest themselves in a short period of time so just avoid this approach.





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Thanks for your input on this point. It is good to know and I had no idea about the flow of solder. Guess I’ll be looking into the tool.......again


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