READ THIS if you are blocked from this BBS at work!
 

You can use the anonymizer (http://www.anonymizer.com to surf anything through blocking firewalls (unless they have blocked anonymizer too).

Very cool...

-Wayne

Wayne, Isn't that the point...we should be working to be able to afford more parts from Pelican

doesn't matter if you are working or not, so long as you are still getting paid! max

Nice thing about being self- employed. I can do what I want when I'm at work.

Oh- One more thing- Neener Neener!

wayne...you forgot to add MUHAAHAAHAAHAA:D

If I am on the Pelican BB I am not generating revenue...I am spending it....

Bob? Bob is that you?

Guys, you'll have to excuse Bob, he's my Supervisor, you understand.

;)

Just in case I need to say this.... just kidding.

Fortunately they haven't blocked me from getting to PP yet, but they do block ebay (no great loss), anything having to do with weapons, anything having to do with games, anything with adult content (no big deal), etc... I guess I'm lucky though, some of the other locations around the country block much much more stuff.

My theory is tell people what they can't do, and tell them the consequences, then if you catch them doing it fire 'em. Of course on top of some very professional Networking people (who can quite easily circumvent things anyway) our building is also home to some low paid entry level types that are more likely to get into trouble (although I hear that it's often managerial types that get caught doing the most serious stuff).

Most, if not all, of the commercial nannyware vendors will have blocked the anonymising services.

FWIW, I've found that several of these packages block my site - http://vintagebus.com

What's scary about the nannyware stuff is not that they block sites like Pelican and whatnot, but they also selectively non-entertainment sites. Various political sites of one orientation will blocked, but bot those of the other persuasion. Their block lists are closely guarded "trade secrets." This gives them a tremendous power that people don't even realize. The new trend in social, political and economic control is to quietly filter what you don't want people to see. Microsoft is famous for mangling competitors products.
--Mulder

I guess I am lucky...I do most of the purchasing for service...and i need to surf to find parts and info.
Soooo...if they block me....things do not get fixed!
Bob

Quite a few of the guys I work with use their home pc's as proxies on non standard, non blocked ports making their own way around. It works great if you have good broadband.

I have an idea. I can set up an IP-only site that people can use to access the BBS when they cannot get it at work. I would make this site password protected, and you would only know the password if you go to the regular site regularly. Then, if a snooping administrator decides to block Pelican, then you can just log in using the IP address URL. If the administrator tries to look at the site, all he will see is a password protected screen.

???

-Wayne

I'm all for it! It wont be long before I have the same problem.

Okay, here is an alternative log in that should work for now:

http://66.236.61.177/

-Wayne

Sheesh Wayne...so you want the guys who work for you to be on a "hobby" website or posting board instead of taking parts orders????

Yeah, I think this will be a good move Wayne!

My employer isn't on the absolute edge of computer technology. However, they will buy it. The latest move is to subscribe to an outfit that does the screening of sites and rates them. If you get an art, leisure or chat designation,.......bing the novell network protector tells you that it's against organizational rules to view or visit the site. Thus J C Penny is blocked however Home Depot isn't. Go figure! I believe that its all in the eye of the beholder. This is especially true when we buy this technology from overseas. For instance, you can get an Afganstani programmer in Kabul to do this. Now figure out what he's going to think about the sites you visit.

Sound's neat now that I'm finally starting to get with the Porsche program. I'm only going to buy from sites I can get to.

Good luck,
David Duffield

Paul, do I work for you? ;)

I'm sorry...just an observation about this board over the years. FAR more names on the board during "working hours" than night, holidays, or weekends. I'm retired, before that, self employed, so my time has always been my own. Is it old fashioned to think that when you are being paid for your time, your time isn't your own???

ATTENTION Pelican Parts employees....... Wayne not only encourages and endorses spending your work time surfing web sites, he's telling you how to do it anonymously. What a company.

As a business owner Wayne, you should use better judgement.

A good network admin would have a keystroke logger on suspect machines and thus be able to get the password for the IP only site. I have a little proggy that logs all activity on a remote machine and sends me the info via email on a pre-determined interval, it'll even take screen shots at set intervals. I manage a small network at work and you can believe if I have a proggy like this the real pros have something better. This type of software runs totally undetected unless you're very familiar with the services that should be running on your comp. Logging can also be done via a router/firewall and would be impossible to detect with the local machine. The point here is that if your company is filtering your internet activity circumventing that filtering will most likely get you into trouble.

There's there first problem right there!

Yikes, you have way too much time on your hand to police that much. What software do you use to monitor all of this stuff?

-Wayne

What a bunch of rank amateurs!

# remsh system a "remsh system b 'mozilla -display me:0 forums.pelicanparts.com&'"

Porsche 911


there back on topic

007 Starr is one I have used but there are many others, most of which run completely in the background undetected by the user. I've also used my linux router to track net use by logging IP's. Not something I particularily like to do but it's part of my responsibility.

My work requires me to be there for 10 hours a day 4 days a week. I do sporatic work. Its honest labor, and I have to be here to do it. My job is important, and if I screw up we lose money.

But out of my 40 hour week, I realisticlly only work 10-15 hours of it.

I split my "free" time on my hobbies, and my school work. Am I a bad person for that? I don't think so.

On a 911 is the gas tank the one with the odd shape for the spare wheel? How does it work to get fuel up in the center of the wheel part? Am I totally off?

Ed Hachtel

You fill the tank from the top, so it should automatically rise within that area...

-Wayne

I'm sure the next time you drop your car off to the mechanic you won't mind if he takes takes a few days to drive it up the coast, using up your gas, burning through a set of tires, oh, and putting all that time on the bill when he returns.

It amazes me how many people feel it's ok to steal from their employer, which is exactly what you are doing when conducting personal business 'on the clock'.

More surprising that one business owner would aid people to steal from another. Must be part of this "New Economy" everyone talks about.

If companies followed the line between work and personal life, I wouldn't have a problem with the above statement.

Since most larger companies are expecting people to work more hours, more overtime, and with more "on-call" time (w/o any additional compensation, mind you) I don't think that I mind to much taking care of a little business of my own.

Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile. Also, I would ask how many upper level execs DON'T do personal stuff on company time. Very few from my personal observations.

Just my .02$, anyway.

Chuck

brianhinfl,

what were you doing at 2:28 pm 2/10/03?

Blocked Sites?!?!? Who does that!
 

I AM the Network Admin where I work, and I have software that lets me see at a glance all the sites that any given user has accessed, and if I see a paticular address that seems to come up often, I go to it and see what it is, and decide if I need to tell the guy to calm down, or block it.
I am VERY lax on who goes where, but I can see when someone is spending too much time on the Internet...
Unfortunately, for you Wayne, I am the only one here who uses the Pelican BBS, because I am the only Porsche guy here, and I do not block it!

I work for a small company where I have many "hats" including network admin, technical director, and lead R&D. My employer has the right idea when it comes to management which might explain our 30% growth last year. Simply put he keeps the employees happy. Family and personal time are considered of the utmost importance and it is not unusual for an employee to run personal errands during work hours or get the day of to take care of a sick child. The employees also have afterhours access to the building including use of the company tool crib to repair their cars and such. I myself store and work on my P-car at our facility, the week before Christmas I spent a week installing a new engine into a used Explorer for my wife, my boss even helped. The point here is simple when employers allow personal business to mingle with work the employees allow work to merge with "off time" perhaps this is why none of us think twice about staying late or working the weekend to get orders out the door or why I sometimes bring research work home with me yet never account for the hours to my employer. A little give and take goes a long way towards making a company successful. It also means that employees become dedicated to their jobs and will not tolerate those who choose not to be part of the team. As network admin I had the unfortunate duty of keeping tabs on a non-team player who was massively abusing his privileges, I used spyware to catch him in the act and he was eventually terminated. The end result to this was an even more productive team and ultimately more successful company.