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confusion about 73 911TV vs 911TE

Believe it or not I still have some confusion about the 1973 911T Targa that I have owned for 15 years! The COA from Porsche lists the VIN number as 9113110226 and the Model Year/Type as 1973 911T Targa. The Production Completion Date is listed as 08/1972. My confusion comes from the fact that my car has Zenith carburetors vs the MFI that was supposed to be standard on all 73 T's. Further research on my part notes that in 1972 and beyond all 911T's bound for the US were fitted with the Bosch MFI and had a designation of "TV" while the "rest of world" cars were fitted with the Zeniths and given a designation "TE". Is it possible that this car, of which I am the third owner and the two previous owners resided in the US with the car always titled in the US, is actually a "rest of world" car outfitted with the Zeniths or perhaps one of the previous owners got tired of the issues of the Bosch MFI and had the car modified back to carburetors?

Looking forward to any help in solving this mystery!

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1973.5 is where they made the change to injection.
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My understanding was that the designation for the mechanically injected cars was 911TE (for einspritzung).
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Believe it or not I still have some confusion about the 1973 911T Targa that I have owned for 15 years! The COA from Porsche lists the VIN number as 9113110226 and the Model Year/Type as 1973 911T Targa. The Production Completion Date is listed as 08/1972. My confusion comes from the fact that my car has Zenith carburetors vs the MFI that was supposed to be standard on all 73 T's. Further research on my part notes that in 1972 and beyond all 911T's bound for the US were fitted with the Bosch MFI and had a designation of "TV" while the "rest of world" cars were fitted with the Zeniths and given a designation "TE". Is it possible that this car, of which I am the third owner and the two previous owners resided in the US with the car always titled in the US, is actually a "rest of world" car outfitted with the Zeniths or perhaps one of the previous owners got tired of the issues of the Bosch MFI and had the car modified back to carburetors?

Looking forward to any help in solving this mystery!

John
9113110226 this is for sure a US/Cdn 911TE Targa

the engine should be 911.51 if it has a manual trans(915/12) or 911.61 for a sportmatic trans(925/00)

911.51 & 911.61 should have MFI

check the engine designation and serial #
911.51 was offered in MY72 & 73, for MY73 the serial # should be 613 0001>>
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9113110226 this is for sure a US/Cdn 911TE Targa

the engine should be 911.51 if it has a manual trans(915/12) or 911.61 for a sportmatic trans(925/00)

911.51 & 911.61 should have MFI

check the engine designation and serial #
911.51 was offered in MY72 & 73, for MY73 the serial # should be 613 0001>>
This^^.

Check the engine serial and type numbers, that is the key to this. If the COA has the same engine numbers as the actual engine in the car, then it's most likely there was an induction change somewhere in its history.
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With a 1972 pro date that car never would have been a CIS car. CIS wasn't started until Jan 1973, which as was mentioned above got treated as 73.5

It is an odd one. I think as others said, your engine type number will help figure it out.

Where there multiple versions of heads used on the 73s based on the version of injection? I know the 73.5 CIS heads are different. But what about MFI versus carb heads? Were factory deliver carb vehicles capped or different castings?
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Your initial post seems to have TE and TV backwards. Maybe just a typo, or maybe the source of your confusion? As others noted, TE (einspritzung) indicates fuel injection. TV (vergaser) indicates carburetors.

Were 72/73 Canadian cars US spec (TE) or ROW (TV)? Not being a Canuck, I have no idea
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