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troy 02-12-2003 04:59 PM

Kim;
I did basically the same project on my '76 three years ago. The factory didn't start using etching primer until the late '70's and the paint on mine just turned loose everywhere it was galvanized. What this meant for me was I had to get every last spec of paint off before refinishing. I went with a media blaster in Florida, worked great, and did not remove the galvanization. I'm pretty sure there's a number of these in Ca. I'm with the purist crowd on an original '76. I'd leave it stock, or if you're going to modify it use period components (I love the look of my 9x15 fuchs). Went with the Dupont Chroma Premier system, starting with their etching primer etc. Still looks great three years later.

krk 02-12-2003 05:22 PM

Troy,

Thx for the post! Your comments are similar to the shop's comments today -- strip down to the base and build a new surface for painting. It hadn't occured to me to ask about the interaction between the stripping choice (blasting or chem) and the galvanization! (I'll be asking about that now of course!)

btw, your car looks great. I do like the wheel choice -- it fills the wells up nicely. You have 9's on the back. Are they 7's on the front?

Thx again for the post.

kim.

lews930 02-12-2003 06:08 PM

Kim, I'm having my 76 930 repainted as soon as there is room at the
body shop. You are asking the right questions and you can never ask
too many! If I were doing it, and I am, I would leave it stock, except for the tail. I bought an intercooler and then the late style tail to house it in.
I wish I had kept the original tail!!!! I've heard different stories from different people on stripping. some say media some say chemical but either way, all the paint has to come off. I agree with some earlier comment, if you wan a project, start with a project. I hope your repaint
turns out nice. It's also nice to hear of other 76 930 owners.

lews930@aol.com

krk 02-12-2003 06:38 PM

Lews930.

a) You are right -- it is absolutely great to hear from other early turbo owners.
b) It is also good to hear the experiences as we go down the various trials of owning these puppies.
c) I hear ya' on the tail thing. I have flipped on the issue several times, all driven by the desire for an intercooler option, and the appreciation for the style of the early tail. For now, it's fast enough. The early tail will stay.
d) I hope your repaint turns out awesome. What color?
e) I believe the media I discussed this morning at the shop was a copper based media (as opposed to walnuts or plastic). Never heard of it before.

Interesting times, eh? :-)

kim.

troy 02-12-2003 07:44 PM

Kim,
I put the original 8's off the rear on the front, and the rears are actually the 9" fronts off of an RSR. I'm totally with you on the tail! I too would love to have an intercooler, but will not part with the original look. Great to hear from you '76 guys -- underdash A/C and pop-out rear quarter windows rule!!!

krk 02-12-2003 08:22 PM

Troy,

What spacers did you need on the front? (there must be some kind of curse, where all 911 threads end up talking about wheels...) Did you have to do anything w/suspension/alignment/etc? What about brakes?

I ask 'cause my mechanic pointed out that while I've managed to increase the umph, the braking and tire systems on the early birds were considered weak. So I have it in the back of my mind to keep an eye out for improvements on that front.

And the pop out windows *are* cool :-)

kim.

dean 02-13-2003 04:13 AM

Hey Kim

I forgot to thank you for the complements on my car:)
Did you know that the motor that I put in my car is a 75 ROW 930. It is the 183rd 930 motor that Porsche made. Cool huh.

I highly recommend an intercooler and brake update.

Have fun with your car

tsniu 02-13-2003 10:01 AM

You might also think about stoneguard additive to the paint on the valance and rockers. I don't believe that the original 70s or even early 80 models had this paint protection from the factory although, someone correct me here, I believe that later models automatically included it until they began using the plastic polypropylene bumper caps. Looks very nice already. Tom

krk 02-13-2003 01:06 PM

Dean: No worries -- I figured you knew your car looked great before I mentioned it :-) Where did you come up with your case? I'm assuming the tranny serial number gives up this kind of info, yes?

On the brake front, I was thinking moving up one generation -- the 917 brake? -- whatever I pick, I'm not sure I want to be forced to lose the 15" rims. I'll admit to not having done much investigation work yet tho.

Tom: I agree on the valences. Now, they did come with a sort of pebbled look from the factory. I assumed it was sort of a 3M rockguard type scheme. (actually, it's one of the places where the paint is coming off my car, so I can see several of the layers -- I can post pics if there's interest)

kim.

Hetmann 02-13-2003 01:30 PM

934 kit
 
Peter at Rennspeed has the 934 parts. They are not listed on his website, but he has them if you ask. I love that look, but I also love stock early 930.

dean 02-13-2003 02:03 PM

Kim,
I got the motor from a guy who was thinking about putting a V8 in his 930. The last three serial #'s are 183 on the motor. I feel honored owning a little 930 history.
The best brake upgrade you can do for your car is a 78-79 930 setup. With those brakes you can keep the 15's if you want. I did that upgrade on my car, but I am running 16's

krk 02-13-2003 02:54 PM

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Dean: s/tranny/engine/ -- dunno where my brain was. Been reading tranny stuff lately, so it's prolly stuck in my brain somewhere. So the guy was putting a v8 in an early 930.... hmmm... Ouch. But good for you! You are right -- it *is* pretty cool. It is a piece of history and ... it's fast! :-)

Oh, it was time to attach some candy.

troy 02-13-2003 08:45 PM

Kim,
I'm running the stock front 930 spacers on the rear and none on the front. I have 1/2" spacers for the front which really fill out the fenders, but I get so much garbage hitting my rear flares from my front tires that I moved them back in a bit. The best thing I ever did for the performance of the car was to put a set of high C/F (coeficient of friction) carbon/kevlar pads on all four corners. AMAZING difference in braking performance!!! I had rebuilt my calipers with stainless pistons (stock "S" alloys) and wanted to maximize my little brakes. I was truly shocked what a set of sticky pads could do. I don't have the race track fade resistance of the big 917 brakes, but on the street they work wonderfully. The only draw back though is they are very noisy/squeaky under light braking.


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