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leakdown air from between cyl and head
I'm confused. Backstory will be farther down, but I did a leakdown and only
#6 cylinder was about 45%. No air from intake or exhaust but definitely under the car. After engine is out (2.2 but with JE pistons, AA 86mm Biral cylinders) I find no broken rings or scored cylinder. Re-bolt down heads and put leakdown tester back on, and the air is coming from the bottom side of where the head and cylinder meet. I had cleaned the mating surface of the heads, there doesn't seem to be any damage and these were done by a reputable shop only a few thousand miles ago. Right before this happened, I was doing an autocross and lost the fuel pump (carbs) during a run, so for 30 seconds or so it was acting weird, likely getting leaner and leaner while I'm still going full throttle. After fixing electrical issue with fuel pump, I did a bunch more runs but seemed to be running a bit poorly going home. Not sure where to go next to isolate why the head is not mating up properly any more, or if i'm doing something wrong.
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few Thousand miles?
Check head stud torque. Could be loose or pulled stud from 2.2 Mg case.
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There didn't seem to be any loose nuts when disassembling. I've temporarily
re-installed on the bench and torqued to 20. The studs are still all the same length so not pulled. I put this together, heads were newly done, last year. Now has 8K miles on it. Very strange.
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Did your shop resurface the heads when they were rebuilt?
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Yes, they were resurfaced.
It's hard to see but this is my pic of mainly #6. I used carb cleaner on the mating surface and it seems normal I can still see the machining marks all the way around. ![]()
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Well just trying things, and I swapped cylinder and piston #6 with #5. Now, the
leak is in #5, and #6 doesn't leak. So I think that eliminates the heads and points to something about the one cylinder. Of course I also just realized that I was test assembling with the old kinda beat up copper base rings, and just for diagnosis I can try putting it together without any base rings and try again.
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Suspect, then measure cylinder height. You seemed to isolate this when you swapped cylinder positions (6>5) and observed the same symptom.
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Was your head gasket crumbled when disassembled?
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I had air leaking there also on a 3.0.
I was able to lap the head and cylinder and issue went away. Good luck!!
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