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i saw a new in box about ten years ago for sale, it was 12K and i thought that was outrageous then!
Then the rest of the gear.

PMO ITB's or some such would be so much more down to earth for OP.

A retrofit "proper" SCRS would be $$ prohibitive and perhaps not even fun.
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.. yeah but that air-box would never explode.
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We have a genuine SC/RS at the shop right now and its a TOTALLY different animal from any SC,.....

Remember, the 3.0RS was a street car made for RSR homologation. The SC/RS is a race/rally car and not designed nor meant for puttering about in traffic. The SC/RS can be made to handle very very well, depending on whether its used for tarmac rally or off-road events.
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I meant a whole system, not just a pump.
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Wire me $50k and Iíll get one for you.
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50K for an engine or a complete car?
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Then the rest of the gear.

PMO ITB's or some such would be so much more down to earth for OP.

A retrofit "proper" SCRS would be $$ prohibitive and perhaps not even fun.
unfortunately the PMO is not accepted by FIA HTP papers.
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Hi Matt,

50K for an engine or a complete car?
He was responding to me, so I am guessing neither, just the fuel injection system.
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Hi Matt,

50K for an engine or a complete car?
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This might work for you.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-RSR-3-0-4-0l-MFI-engine-complete-rebuilt-no-exchange-no-core/282587181134?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
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Something doesn't look right on that motor. Two different FI systems are shown. 4.0 aircooled? Not based on a 3,6?
Looks speciousness to me. Especially at the same price as a 2,4 S motor.
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Something doesn't look right on that motor. Two different FI systems are shown. 4.0 aircooled? Not based on a 3,6?
Looks speciousness to me. Especially at the same price as a 2,4 S motor.
Looks like different stacks. You can see the pics were taken at some type of display event, with several different engines there. I've been curious about them, they have good feedback.
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Mittelmotor are the real deal. They were originally a 914-6 specialist. 15 years ago when the Jarvis twin plug dizzy came out I used to sell them 4-5 of them a year. I believe the stuff they are using these days they get mostly from Twin Spark but I'm not sure. I'm still on their monthly email blast. Here is last month's:

https://www.mittelmotor.de/cms/de/component/acymailing/mailid-100?key=51U0bPM5&subid=12837-1es9qTie8D8qtF&tmpl=component
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mittelmotor has a couple of fia rsr motors on ebay.
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Upping this thread as its and interesting subject, difficult to fint information..

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unfortunately the PMO is not accepted by FIA HTP papers.
Obviously not electronic injection but i believe carbs (webers/pmo?) are allowed besides the mechanical injection, at leas for historic rallying? Maybe someone could verify this.


Regarding engine block, according to current app K regulations:

"911 2.7 / 3.0 RS or RSR from 1974 onwards: the crankcases can be
replaced by those for the 930 Turbo 3.0 (cast numbers: 930 101 101 4R
& 930 101 102 4R, or 930 101 103 4R & 930 101 104 4R),
provided the cylinder capacity remains original."

This would also mean a regular SC block could be used as i think 103 and 104 4R are pretty common.

https://historicdb.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulations/1520957151/2018_appendix_k_yearbook_web_full_20180309.pdf
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There are a few pictures and part numbers of SC/RS exhausts in Bruce Anderson's 911 Performance Handbook.
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Frere once said it was a extremely low volume homologated special and the chassis wasnt really dialed in being it was expected to be revamped once the rally team got them.
This is very interesting and something I kind of suspected. Do you know where I could find that quote?

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i got my 954 aka SC-RS reprinted parts and spec manual off some fellow in the uk here on pelican. i dont recall his name unfortunately.
Would you mind sharing that via MP?
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This is very interesting and something I kind of suspected. Do you know where I could find that quote?
i think he did a road impression on road an track or car and driver back in the day. frere articles appeared in many publication back then... usa, uk aussie, japan, german etc.

a well respected LM winner and fluent is many languages, had insights to the marques factories or specialty vehicles were many other journalist didnt and a times he was allow to take these cars out for days. i had a chance to chat with this remarkable man shortly before he passed.

he' had mentioned the SCRS handling behavior was really different compared to his daily SC or 3.2 carrara ... which version i forget.


Would you mind sharing that via MP?
i dont think i can share it just because its like thick as a brick! its scanned not digital unfortunately. MB engineer has reprints for sale. they have both spec or workshop and the parts manual.
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HI

I still have some print's of the SCRS parts and drivers manual if needed,

there are some of the injection pumps around on e-bay , usual of the V6 Ford Capri

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This is very interesting and something I kind of suspected. Do you know where I could find that quote?



Would you mind sharing that via MP?
i think he did a road impression on road an track or car and driver back in the day. frere articles appeared in many publication back then... usa, uk aussie, japan, german etc.

a well respected LM winner and fluent is many languages, had insights to the marques factories or specialty vehicles were many other journalist didnt and a times he was allow to take these cars out for days. i had a chance to chat with this remarkable man shortly before he passed.

he' had mentioned the SCRS handling behavior was really different compared to his daily SC or 3.2 carrara ... which version i forget.
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If anyone needs a pump let me know.

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