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osidak 02-18-2003 12:32 PM

Oh and one more thing. If I where Bill Gates and had all his money, I would build myself my own little road course and take those 959's to the track. Wouldn't be fun driving them on the street anyway.

Then let the locals use the track at a very low cost when he wasn't using it. Kind of the Pacific North West Ring if you will

wcballance 02-18-2003 12:32 PM

Todd,

Since you live in California, the Ticket Assassin web site should be of particular interest to you. Check it out.

nostatic 02-18-2003 01:01 PM

I did this:

http://trafficschoolonline.com/

highly recommended.

RoninLB 02-18-2003 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackOlsen
Instant-on is hard to outfox, which I suppose is why they invented it.



I've said on previous threads to never be the point man.. I always/usually follow the fastest car on the road.. hanging back about 1/8-1/4 mi..
sometimes you can pick up laser scatter thru the car directly in front of you that's being hit.
there are a few active laser jammers out there.. the Blinder M-10 has a big rep.. Don't know if the others are as good.. I've been waiting out the laser jammer install.. the Blinder doesn't automaticall turn off after a few seconds.. so the PD will probably figure out he's being jammed unless you turn it off..

here is a good article from Nat'l Motorist Ass


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads/Lasertest.jpg

Superman 02-18-2003 01:21 PM

Mister Gates got a ticket on the 520 bridge at three-something in the morning a couple of years back driving a Porsche, and I think it was a 959. I think he was doing 165 or so. Makes you wonder how somebody can get away with stuff like that.

You know, I hear he has a lot of money.

RoninLB 02-18-2003 02:22 PM

I tried a few times to get a clear picture.. can't find how to "compress"/whatever.. if anyone that doesn't have Super vision and wants a readable article

RoninLB@optonline.net



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N11Porsche 02-18-2003 02:57 PM

A good read in the new Motor Trend, New Car Buyer's Guide, about avoiding speeding tickets.........covers some info about radar detectors, how to act and what to say once you get pulled over. Some advice on ways to drive with the pedal down and not get nailed.

Joe Bob 02-18-2003 04:00 PM

Radar detectors are NOT illegal in California.

20/20 but "I" would have goten offensive when I heard that high a number......asked to see the unit.

Did your detector register a laser hit? If not, a KA hit or a K hit needs a bit to calibrate. Fight it.....

philfran 02-18-2003 04:01 PM

I have been a lucky guy once.

I was poking along behind a motor home in a construction zone for about 5 miles. As soon as we cleared the construction and the road opened up to 2 lanes again I romped and stomped around the motor home. Probably hit about 95 or so.

Then, about 10 miles down the road I see red lights in the rear view. Hmmm, I think, I am at the speed limit (70) wonder what is up.

Officer states he had me at 93. Took me 10 miles to run you down. I audibly gasped and said "I can't believe it" (I guess I am not the smartest guy around!!!!). Officer replies "Are you saying that I am not being truthful?". Oh, no officer, I just don't understand that I could have been that fast. My next stroke of brilliance was when I said that if I was on patrol I would target the bright red Porsche also. He didn't think much of that either.

After much discussion, mostly one sided, his side, he wrote me a warning!!!!! I thanked him and with a shake of his hand I was off and running again.

Yes, I am a lucky man!

nostatic 02-18-2003 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by philfran
Officer states he had me at 93. Took me 10 miles to run you down. I audibly gasped and said "I can't believe it" (I guess I am not the smartest guy around!!!!). Officer replies "Are you saying that I am not being truthful?". Oh, no officer, I just don't understand that I could have been that fast. My next stroke of brilliance was when I said that if I was on patrol I would target the bright red Porsche also. He didn't think much of that either.
one should always be stocked with a fresh dozen of KrispyKremes for just such an occasion.

Would that qualify as a bribe? If all that sugary goodness is bribery, color me guilty!

Jim Smolka 02-18-2003 05:49 PM

I have always liked the reply to the question:

Officer: Sir, do you know how fast your were going?
Driver: Yes, Officer, but do you know how fast you were going to be able to catch me???

I have found the best way to beat the system is with a good lawyer. Some how they have creative ways of having a ticket dismissed.

When I lived in SC, the ticket would stay on ones record for 3 years from the date of the ticket. True with insurance too. But, if you contested the ticket, one could delay the 'posting' of the ticket for a year or more. Thereby reducing the 3 years to 2 or less.

pwd72s 02-18-2003 05:55 PM

Many of you should realize you are suggesting that Mike's (MMARSH) counterparts are not clever. That's a big mistake, IMHO...

ChrisBennet 02-18-2003 06:42 PM

Call me old fashioned but when I do something wrong and get caught I take my medicine.
Chris (former speeder)

RSupdate 02-18-2003 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JackOlsen
Instant-on is hard to outfox, which I suppose is why they invented it.
"Instant-on" equals only one thing......

LASER.

There is NO defense for that. Mike Valentine has not even been able to fiqure out how to out smart LASER.

But I guess he'd better....'cos in a few more years almost every P.D. will have exlusively LASER equipped Motor officers.

RoninLB 02-18-2003 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RSupdate
"LASER.

There is NO defense for that.

not true.. I just posted an article above that confirmed the Blinder M-10.. and many others have confirmed it

Jack Olsen 02-18-2003 08:04 PM

Laser is bad. Instant-on radar is also a problem.

In California, anything that messes with a laser unit's ability to function (active, passive, whatever) is illegal.

carreradpt 02-18-2003 09:39 PM

Just recently I had an very unexpected encounter with instant -on. I was in the middle of Death Valley, hadn't seen a car for miles am doing over 120 on a very straight (55mph) road when I see a car coming from the opposite direction down the hills way out in front of me. I slowed down some as I didn't want to blast by this guy, never entered my mind that it would be a CHP. Slowed down to a hundred and then thought what if it is. Down some more to about 80 when I realized that the oncoming car was looking black with a white top and then POW! The V-1 went crazy and I about *****. He stuck his arm out and waved me to slow down and he kept on. Boy did he have me. Ruined the rest of the cruise thru the desert. Can't defeat that kind of thing. Bummer about your ticket!!

dickster 02-18-2003 11:03 PM

todd

what a bummer, i know that sinking feeling you get. i got lucky, and am VERY careful about speeding now.

on the subject of detectors, there are heavy fines in france for using them - don't know about the uk!

osidak 02-19-2003 04:18 AM

Jack I say this mostly in jest but I thought it would be funny.

Back when laser first started to be used I remember an article in one of the car magazines that stated that laser had to be aimed at something reflective or vertical.

Some prime targets where head lights and front license tags. They went onto say that you could effectively diminish the range of laser and possible buy your self some time by running some high intensity head lights all the time. Something to effect that High intensity (high wattage) gave off a lot of infrared radiation and this interfered with the laser that was being used. If I remember correctly they backed it up with testing.

So following that advise changing your bulbs to a higher wattage and then running your headlights and fogs when ever the car is moving would be against the law.

Don't know if this still holds water if it ever did but when laser becomes prevalent in my area I will give it a go.

HawgRyder 02-19-2003 07:04 AM

I am an Electronics Technologist....have been for many years.
If anyone can show me a unit that is capable of defeating the modulated laser....I'll be the richest man in the world inside of 3 years.
There are no patents for such a device...I've looked.
There are about a zillion governments waiting for the device to be invented.
If the device is invented...then LIDAR is dead.
All LASER guided weapons are just so much junk.
Any further development of LASERs is useless unless it is for cutting purposes.
My $.03
Bob


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