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awesome. thank you!
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a little bit of progress last night. needs another decent layer of epoxy (i ran out) and the canopy and cowl will be sealed up. deciding if i want to seal the whole car or just get the bare metal sealed. a few hours with the DA and some adjustment to my masking and i can shoot the whole thing in epoxy. but it's all coming apart in a few years for paint either way. so idk if it's worth the trouble.
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i'm sure most of you knew this already, but i found out first hand how light this car is last night. i had it tucked over on its side of the garage so Kelly can park in the garage but she's out while i get the car primered. so i stuck my floor jack under the engine (with a 2x8 to distribute the load and soften any sharp corners), jacked it up so the rear wheels just were off the ground, and drug it over to where i needed it...in flip flops. i didn't even sweep the floor first.

so i drug it over and set about pulling off most of the masking. then, i got out my DA and touched every square inch of exterior in preparation for a proper coat of epoxy primer. i'm hoping to get the tub epoxied this week so i can let it dry/cure during all this heat we're having. then, i'll work on the doors, fenders, hood, decklid, etc. i'm hoping to have all the panels the same color by month's end.

threads w/o pics are the worst, so here's the only one i took last night.
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Roll your fenders now before you spray it.
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Looking good!
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Roll your fenders now before you spray it.
for sure. the rears are pretty flush already, but i think i may put a slight pull on them.
the fronts are definitely getting some love before i even start sanding them.

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Looking good!
thank you, my friend! if it comes out 1/2 as good as yours, i'll be stoked!
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Thanks Chris, mine is just Flat Epoxy white now... So it is easy to drive and work on/change and then "touch up" Love not worrying about an expensive paint job! and it makes the Outlaw look more impactful (thats what I tell myself anyway!) lol
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Thanks Chris, mine is just Flat Epoxy white now... So it is easy to drive and work on/change and then "touch up" Love not worrying about an expensive paint job! and it makes the Outlaw look more impactful (thats what I tell myself anyway!) lol
oh i know. i had considered epoxy white and was looking for examples of it on other cars when i found yours. i was so excited to see it on a car at all and then on a 911 was just more than i could have hoped for. i figured seal it up in epoxy and then, like you said, make adjustments to the body/finish as need be.

my most recent plan was to mix two colors of epoxy to get a 'custom' epoxy color, but i couldn't get them shipped. so i got some low VOC grey. (boring) at this point, i'll just be glad to have it one color and will take [minimal] solace in the likelihood that no other 911s are out there running around in grey epoxy....unless i just hate it in grey epoxy. that would be most unfortunate.
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got going this morning instead of sleeping in and got to work.
wiped the porker down with tar/wax remover to rid it of dust and detritus.
then masked up the door openings.
another quick wipe and i started opening the primer and gun etc.

first coat.


gave her about 50 minutes to flash and applied the second coat. then i pulled the masking because all i know about masking i've learned painting walls in my house.

then i opened the garage door and let out all the fun [low] VOCs. the air was a little thick in the garage. if i end up painting it myself, i'll definitely rig up a filtered ventilation system.

so now i wait a week. two wet coats of low VOC epoxy is said to dry pretty slowly. this is plenty of time for me to start sanding and epoxy-ing the removed panels and inch closer to putting this thing together.

also. whoa orange peel. probably one or two key steps i could have taken to avoid this, but i was tired of reading about it and ready to just try something. worst comes to it, i can always throw on another wet coat and then sand the epoxy. or deal with it until it's time for high-build and paint. stay tuned to find out.
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Congrats on gettin 'er all one color! And a nice one at that. Looks fantastic!!
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Wow, just saw the update, lots of progress for one day....
Must feel good when you walk in the garage now and don't see the sunroof !!!
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Congrats on gettin 'er all one color! And a nice one at that. Looks fantastic!!
Thanks! i'm actually very pleased with the color. and it's just the epoxy primer. more than one of my friends have mentioned that i should just leave it alone. the grey is really sweet.

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Wow, just saw the update, lots of progress for one day....
Must feel good when you walk in the garage now and don't see the sunroof !!!
i got a little more done since my earlier post. but it does feel good to see it one color with a slicktop.

so i took today off of work to get the epoxy shot and had that done a bit earlier than expected. so i knocked out a real tedious, but totally unnecessary job.




and since i went back out to the garage to snap the pic of both hinges, i figured i may as well take another quick snap of the car.


aside from not yet rolling the rear fenders, and managing to not get epoxy on the rear fender lips, i'm pretty pleased with myself right now. and i also only used 28oz of primer to shoot the tub. so i have the lion's share still available for the decklid, hood, doors, bumpers, wing, and whatever else i decide i need to be grey.

i'm going to go make myself a pizza and celebrate.
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How was the pizza?

About the grey primer, in the pictures at least it looks pretty close to some of the pics of Nardo Grey I've seen, and I like it! Maybe you're onto something there. I love that you are shooting your own paint so far.

And the tedious, yet completely unnecessary things are usually some of the best. Do you have any idea how much weight you removed there? At least they look sweet now, even if not much weight removed.
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Good for you, just grabbing this car by the scruff of the neck and having at it.

I've always found a grey primer finish to be very calming; it makes the form of the panel really come out yet doesn't show the minisule flaws that yell at and mock you when finished in color and gloss. I first discovered this with rattle-can Duplicolor grey primer on Lambretta and Vespa panels as a teenager, then on my first car, a 62 MG Midget...then my 74 Bug (flat windshield, orange with black trim, stinger exhaust...a great prep for future 911 ownership).

I also admite your X-Faktory set-up. My CIS is good but Al's parts are definitely the state-of-the-art for replacing it.

To the gentleman who commented earlier about the big buck builds, don't worry: there are plenty of us who are old, relatively poor and still always learning. Consider me among them! Years ago, I was that young guy in the Alfa world. Time just keeps accelerating and now I'm an old fart. Just keep enjoying yourselves while we still have gasoline to feed our beautiful toys. Kind regards to all, John in CT
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How was the pizza?

About the grey primer, in the pictures at least it looks pretty close to some of the pics of Nardo Grey I've seen, and I like it! Maybe you're onto something there. I love that you are shooting your own paint so far.

And the tedious, yet completely unnecessary things are usually some of the best. Do you have any idea how much weight you removed there? At least they look sweet now, even if not much weight removed.
The pizza was really good! Iíve developed this knack for taking frozen pizza and turning it into something significantly better than just edible. (I live in a pizza desert. Only one legitimately decent pizza place near me for over 100 miles. So donít judge too harshly.)
I like the grey too. I was really anxious about what color it would actually be and itís been a pleasant surprise that it turned out the way it did.
Iím a huge proponent of DIY when possible. Thereís a lot of satisfaction to be had from simply doing something yourself. Even if it isnít perfect, itís yours. That really speaks to me because our cars are an extension of ourselves. Iím probably a bit more rough looking than Ďnormalí people, but that doesnít take away from me being a quality dude. My cars tend to follow a similar path.
As for the weight, idk. I donít have a scale other than a bathroom scale. So Iím just assuming weight loss and will just weigh the whole car once itís Ďdoneí. I have a goal for the car. If I donít make that, Iíll make changes until I do. (2200lbs wet)

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Good for you, just grabbing this car by the scruff of the neck and having at it.

I've always found a grey primer finish to be very calming; it makes the form of the panel really come out yet doesn't show the minisule flaws that yell at and mock you when finished in color and gloss. I first discovered this with rattle-can Duplicolor grey primer on Lambretta and Vespa panels as a teenager, then on my first car, a 62 MG Midget...then my 74 Bug (flat windshield, orange with black trim, stinger exhaust...a great prep for future 911 ownership).

I also admite your X-Faktory set-up. My CIS is good but Al's parts are definitely the state-of-the-art for replacing it.

To the gentleman who commented earlier about the big buck builds, don't worry: there are plenty of us who are old, relatively poor and still always learning. Consider me among them! Years ago, I was that young guy in the Alfa world. Time just keeps accelerating and now I'm an old fart. Just keep enjoying yourselves while we still have gasoline to feed our beautiful toys. Kind regards to all, John in CT
A friend of mine had a 67 beetle standard in HS that was that awful light grey primer. But it allowed us to make changes and never worry about paint. My whole house is shades of grey inside. Iím very into grey in general. So that this has gone this well I feel is a good sign.
As for being old, I have a big milestone birthday coming up in a few months and Iím trying to not let it affect me. But getting old seems to be entirely relative. The more active I am and the more I can learn, the less old I feel. I felt 100 over the winter, but Iíve been losing weight and riding my MTB and working on the 911 and I feel so much better all the time. Lends a lot of validity to the adage, ďyouíre only as old as you feel.Ē

Thanks for all the positive feedback, guys! I still canít believe how supportive and generally awesome the Porsche community is.
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Love love love the hinges! Your car is going to be so cool! You shouting for any specific date to get it back driving?
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2200 wet!?!?! WOW! That is a fantastic goal, and I wish you all the luck.

Somewhat relevant to this, when I was dynoing the turbo 540 the other day -- and it was making decent numbers despite having to turn it down a bit for the sake of the clutch -- I complained to the guy about how it underperforms. He asked how much it weighs. When I told him "about 3750," he responded, "Weight kills all dreams." Then he laughed..

Anyway, glad you're feeling better! It sounds like I'm a couple or a few milestone birthdays ahead of you, and I'm just as dumb and happy as ever. Lol Dumbness is important.
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Love love love the hinges! Your car is going to be so cool! You shouting for any specific date to get it back driving?
Thanks! Next up is the hood hinges and most everything that I can take off.
My plan to return it to the street is ASAP. Lol. Realistically, Iím thinking next spring to drive it.

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2200 wet!?!?! WOW! That is a fantastic goal, and I wish you all the luck.

Somewhat relevant to this, when I was dynoing the turbo 540 the other day -- and it was making decent numbers despite having to turn it down a bit for the sake of the clutch -- I complained to the guy about how it underperforms. He asked how much it weighs. When I told him "about 3750," he responded, "Weight kills all dreams." Then he laughed..

Anyway, glad you're feeling better! It sounds like I'm a couple or a few milestone birthdays ahead of you, and I'm just as dumb and happy as ever. Lol Dumbness is important.
The journey to 2200 is going to be a while. I need to replace a bit of steel with FG/CF and drill 1-3 more holes in bits. Lol. Your 540 is just awesome. Weight has benefits too. Like momentum and coasting up slight grades. Not to mention itís likely a bit more comfortable than mine will be.

I have some yard work to do today and then Iíll get back into the garage to knock out some small projects. I have to keep reminding myself that this build is a series of tiny builds and not a monster that needs vanquished in one go.
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I resurfaced here just to follow your build from bfc....Been lurking here since way back in the day.

Way to have at it and tackle this project, looks amazing. Up here in the Northeast it seems everyone's in the rat race and so little time to tackle such a build without spending massive amounts of $ to do it in a short time (with having people build it for you) or spending 10-15 years doing it, one weekend at a time.

Looking forward to seeing those ITBs mounted up, sexy as hell! Working on Porsches for a living at one point also made me hate CIS like you wouldn't believe, so props to the EFI conversion. Modern tech really makes older engines shine in ways they never did, especially with tiny Raychem harnesses and minimalist wiring that gives everything a nice and tidy look. I build a few standalone engine harnesses about 10 years ago, and while it does take a little bit of work to lay out the plan and wire it up seamlessly, after it's all done you can't help but admire it. Shrink tubing works wonders.

Also, like other people mentioned on here, use a respirator every chance you can, and ear plugs or muffs or something and safety glasses. I work in a high noise environment and I usually have mine in from 7am until 2-3 in the afternoon. I was stupid back in my mechanic days and used grinders, hammers, made loud noises with GT3 RSRs with open headers and what not with no protection....and ripe old age of 35 my hearing has already suffered, along with my lungs to a slight degree, and got all sorts of **** in my eyes (including welding slag, which was NOT fun).

You'll thank yourself later, unless your plan is to be able to get away from the honey-do list later in life with the "eh? I didn't hear you" or "I didn't see that on the list" hahahahahahahaha.

And earplugs work great for keeping people from bothering you. Well at least in my job it does
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I resurfaced here just to follow your build from bfc....Been lurking here since way back in the day.

Way to have at it and tackle this project, looks amazing. Up here in the Northeast it seems everyone's in the rat race and so little time to tackle such a build without spending massive amounts of $ to do it in a short time (with having people build it for you) or spending 10-15 years doing it, one weekend at a time.

Looking forward to seeing those ITBs mounted up, sexy as hell! Working on Porsches for a living at one point also made me hate CIS like you wouldn't believe, so props to the EFI conversion. Modern tech really makes older engines shine in ways they never did, especially with tiny Raychem harnesses and minimalist wiring that gives everything a nice and tidy look. I build a few standalone engine harnesses about 10 years ago, and while it does take a little bit of work to lay out the plan and wire it up seamlessly, after it's all done you can't help but admire it. Shrink tubing works wonders.

Also, like other people mentioned on here, use a respirator every chance you can, and ear plugs or muffs or something and safety glasses. I work in a high noise environment and I usually have mine in from 7am until 2-3 in the afternoon. I was stupid back in my mechanic days and used grinders, hammers, made loud noises with GT3 RSRs with open headers and what not with no protection....and ripe old age of 35 my hearing has already suffered, along with my lungs to a slight degree, and got all sorts of **** in my eyes (including welding slag, which was NOT fun).

You'll thank yourself later, unless your plan is to be able to get away from the honey-do list later in life with the "eh? I didn't hear you" or "I didn't see that on the list" hahahahahahahaha.

And earplugs work great for keeping people from bothering you. Well at least in my job it does
my plan is to have it fully 'done' in 10 years. technically, 3748 days from now until it HAS to be done all the way.
but i 100% plan to drive it next year. builds are more fun as progressions than as 6 month hurry up and spend fests. plus i don't have that kind of loot. i'd have to rob 2 banks and my wife specifically said no to violent crime as a way to fund the build. (i asked)

all my old VWs taught me to hate CIS. and then, the more i've learned about how IC engines work, the more a big plate in the middle of the intake tract seems counter-intuitive to me. so CIS was never going to stay. i put dream car in the title and no one dreams of CIS. no one.

i fully intend to use Raychem or Techflex or whatever that nice braided sleeving is for my harness. i tried self-sealing silicone tape for the LS harness and was really disappointed. i've tried factory tapes and friction tapes and all sorts of things and there's nothing that compares to Raychem/Techflex. and i fully agree shrink tube is an oft overlooked wonder for tidying harnesses.

several years ago, i got a small piece of ferrous metal in my eye while driving through road construction with the windows open. i let it sit for 3 days before i went to the ER. i ended up having to go to an eye surgeon to have it ground out with some over-priced dremel tool as my eye had started to heal over it. since then, i'm a lot better about wearing eye protection. hearing protection tho, i'm not so good at. too much live music very close to the front (chest up against the barrier) for the last 25-28 years has rendered my hearing a bit damaged. my wife not-so-jokingly keeps advising that i'm going to need hearing aids sooner than later. the quiet is nice, but when they ring, it can be nauseating. so i try to wear plugs at shows now. in the garage, i don't generally wear anything except when i wear headphones. but i don't do that too often because i absolutely don't want the grinder grabbing the cord and making a run for my face. f that whole mess. i had one grab my shorts when i was working on the windshield of the 911 and it twisted itself into my pocket. damn near killed me and then almost caught on fire before i could switch it off. we took some time away from each other after that one. the other grinder has been much better behaved.

i have some nice wireless headphones for work, but until my department is fully staffed, i'm still responsible for making sure the phone gets answered from time to time. and i swear they invite visitors to my desk. i don't wear them, no one bothers me. as soon as i put them on, it's like i'm parked next to the water cooler or the copier. Mr. Popular. so they hang on a hook, waiting for better days.

i've completed my husbandly responsibilities for today, so i reckon i ought to get out to the garage and get some work done.
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