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MrRPJ 03-08-2018 07:31 PM

Trailing arm Issues WTF
 
So I have a problem i just cant get my head around. I have 20mm spacer on the rear left and nothing on the right. but the 20mm on the lest is required to keep my fitment even. I measured from gearbox to axle mounts and the distance is the same so wtf is going on look how close the rotor is to the right wheel compared to the left. The thing thats got me baffled is the alxe distances are the same https://i.imgur.com/u7CuloP.jpg

Omegaman 03-09-2018 04:22 AM

Then the wheel offset must be different. Have you put a rear tyre on a wheel from the front?

stownsen914 03-09-2018 04:25 AM

Perhaps to keep tire/wheel clearance looking the same on both sides to account for small differences due to alignment or asymmetry in bodywork? 20mm is a lot though, almost an inch! Has the car ever had crash damage/repairs?

T77911S 03-09-2018 04:26 AM

if you are measuring the wheels in relation to the fenders and each side is different, that is normal.
I think I did different spacers on each side for my 77 widebody or I was seriously considering it just for aesthetics.

gomezoneill 03-09-2018 06:14 AM

Could it have anything to do with the non Porsche engine that's installed? Did you keep the 915?

betterair 03-09-2018 06:43 AM

""Has the car ever had crash damage/repairs?""

Bent trailing arm??
seems unlikely but maybe?

Sboxin 03-09-2018 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRPJ (Post 9954591)
So I have a problem i just cant get my head around. I have 20mm spacer on the rear left and nothing on the right. but the 20mm on the lest is required to keep my fitment even. I measured from gearbox to axle mounts and the distance is the same so wtf is going on look how close the rotor is to the right wheel compared to the left. The thing thats got me baffled is the alxe distances are the same

IMHO - - it's just the body - - are you fitting the tire to the outside of the fender?
We have 2 Porsches that are not the same on both rear sides, a 2002 Boxster and 1978 911 SC . . .

We use different size spacers to correct the wheel/tire placement . . . not a problem.
I would suggest to use your 20MM spacer and not worry about it .

Regards,

75 911s 03-09-2018 07:06 AM

First off, I've been following your project build for a while and kudos to getting to this point.

There are a lot of factors involved in your spacing issue. The first that comes to mind is possibly different offset wheels. Swap them and check if there is any difference.

The second is your addon fenders. Didn't you recently put wide fenders on the back? Are they square and in the same position?

Another thing you might check is a broken TB. I saw a recent thread about this exact problem on the FB page and in several cases, it turned out to be a broken Torsion bar. I don't why or how that would affect the spacing, but something to check.

Keep us posted.

MrRPJ 03-10-2018 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gomezoneill (Post 9954904)
Could it have anything to do with the non Porsche engine that's installed? Did you keep the 915?

Nar that just make the wheels spin while going past other porsches haha. No i ditched the 915 for a custom made transaxle

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MrRPJ 03-10-2018 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sboxin (Post 9954957)
IMHO - - it's just the body - - are you fitting the tire to the outside of the fender?
We have 2 Porsches that are not the same on both rear sides, a 2002 Boxster and 1978 911 SC . . .

We use different size spacers to correct the wheel/tire placement . . . not a problem.
I would suggest to use your 20MM spacer and not worry about it .

Regards,

Thanks mate its really got me baffled so for now thats the plan I still have a bit to do to get it running. ill worry about it after rego.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75 911s (Post 9954963)
First off, I've been following your project build for a while and kudos to getting to this point.

There are a lot of factors involved in your spacing issue. The first that comes to mind is possibly different offset wheels. Swap them and check if there is any difference.

The second is your addon fenders. Didn't you recently put wide fenders on the back? Are they square and in the same position?

Another thing you might check is a broken TB. I saw a recent thread about this exact problem on the FB page and in several cases, it turned out to be a broken Torsion bar. I don't why or how that would affect the spacing, but something to check.

Keep us posted.

Thanks mate its been a long time coming. and yep i just fitted gt2 flares all measurements are equal both sides. i checked the torsion bar and its good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by betterair (Post 9954938)
""Has the car ever had crash damage/repairs?""

Bent trailing arm??
seems unlikely but maybe?

These were my initial thoughts but no evidence of any repairs and we recently did all the floor pan measurements before we made the engine cradle and it was spot on. could one be a turbo arm??

75 911s 03-10-2018 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRPJ (Post 9955971)
could one be a turbo arm??

There are several different arms out there.. I think they have casting numbers stamped in them. Turbo are different and SWB arms..also steel vs aluminum.

I read on another thread the bending tolerance is minuscule. So if it is a bent arm, it wouldn't be anywhere near 20mm. I think the tolerance is like 3mm before a crack or break on an aluminum arm. (con't quote me on that, but my point is, they don't bend much)

You also might just disassemble both sides fully and re-assemble. Everything down to pulling off the spring plates and pulling out the tb.

T77911S 03-12-2018 02:58 AM

i will say it again, if you are measuring from the wheel to the fender lip, it WILL BE different from side to side.
with the spacer on the left, the wheel will be further form the rotor


although looking at the right I don't remember my wheels being that far from the rotors. do you have custom wheels with more offset?

rattlsnak 03-12-2018 08:15 PM

Have you swapped wheels from left to right and see what happens to the measurements at that point?

Eagledriver 03-13-2018 06:55 PM

Alignment could affect the spacing. You might have some significant thrust offset.

-Andy


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