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bcgreen 03-28-2018 03:38 PM

When bleeding brakes and the new fluid is the same colour
 
as the old, how do you know when the old fluid is out?

brighton911 03-28-2018 03:52 PM

Sounds like you are changing it fairly frequently (a good practice) and hence no color changes. There really isn't a lot fluid in the lines from master cylinder to the calipers. I remove the old fluid out the master cylinder with a Mityvac and fill it with new then start. So rough guess from past jobs, 4-5 ounces for the rears and 3-4 for the fronts (all per side) to clear the old and run with the new fluid.

tops911 03-28-2018 05:00 PM

I use a quart and it gets all the old out. When i used Super Blue, I would alternate it with the amber colored and a quart would ensure the old was out. plus it's not like you can really save an opened can of brake fluid (so I'm told) so I just used the whole quart.

HarryD 03-28-2018 07:37 PM

I used to measure the volume when I went from Blue to gold (or back). In my 1973 it took about 150 ml to flush the farthest caliper. If you do about a liter equally divided, you will get the old stuff out.

T77911S 03-29-2018 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brighton911 (Post 9979780)
Sounds like you are changing it fairly frequently (a good practice) and hence no color changes. There really isn't a lot fluid in the lines from master cylinder to the calipers. I remove the old fluid out the master cylinder with a Mityvac and fill it with new then start. So rough guess from past jobs, 4-5 ounces for the rears and 3-4 for the fronts (all per side) to clear the old and run with the new fluid.

it depends on what color he started with.

as said,, you need to remove the old fluid from the reservoir before putting in new.

Mike Andrew 03-29-2018 05:32 AM

+1 on cycling an entire quart/liter thru the system. I did this initially and now alternate colors to simplify things.

bcgreen 03-29-2018 06:35 AM

Thanks guys, will go through the whole container.

Sboxin 03-29-2018 08:08 AM

Food color added to brake fluid ??
 
Another question -

Has anyone ever added food color to the brake fluid to determine old and new fluid ??
I wonder what ATE used to make their fluid blue ??

Regards,

GH85Carrera 03-29-2018 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sboxin (Post 9980529)
Another question -

Has anyone ever added food color to the brake fluid to determine old and new fluid ??
I wonder what ATE used to make their fluid blue ??

Regards,

Bad idea. The food color is water based. Water and brake fluid are not a good thing. Anything the end user would put in brake fluid is going to adversely affect the fluid performance.

manbridge 74 03-29-2018 11:18 AM

Doing the farthest first (LR on 911) showed me that it takes the most so I do about .35L on it followed by .2L on RR. Then .35 on RF and last bit on LF. I learned this back when Superblue was common. Bet I’ve done thousands of cars...

Sboxin 03-29-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 9980756)
Bad idea. The food color is water based. Water and brake fluid are not a good thing. Anything the end user would put in brake fluid is going to adversely affect the fluid performance.

Excellent,

Thank you for the good advice . . . and I thought I came up with a novel idea . . . ha ha.

Regards,

bcgreen 03-29-2018 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manbridge 74 (Post 9980822)
Doing the farthest first (LR on 911) showed me that it takes the most so I do about .35L on it followed by .2L on RR. Then .35 on RF and last bit on LF. I learned this back when Superblue was common. Bet I’ve done thousands of cars...

How do know you're using 0.35 or 0.2?

manbridge 74 03-29-2018 01:53 PM

Our machines reservoir is clear and has four distinct lines. Pretty easy to eyeball from a distance.


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