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Montreal911 04-13-2018 10:27 AM

trying to keep the back seats up!
 
Hi guys, I am trying to keep the back seats up on my '74 Coupe (i have kids).

The interior was nicely re-done by PO but he didn't need the seats to be in the 'up' position so he didn't install the leather strap/mechanism to keep the seats up. My car is the beige seats in the picture below. On the picture, the seat is balanced in the up position but will fall back down at the first bump... either fall down or on my kids back which is uncomfortable

I am looking for a way to keep the seats up in a non-intrusive manner.. I found this picture online (back seats with a red thingy to lock/unlock seats..) ...can I install this?

any other ideas?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523643917.gif

Montreal911 04-13-2018 10:30 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1523644113.JPG

sabeo.m 04-13-2018 03:13 PM

hi- red pull/spring locking knobs are for later G series Carrera models. older 911's use leather straps with button snaps, that snap the rear seat to the rear deck. hope this helps.

psychoideas 04-13-2018 03:55 PM

You can install the red button doovilackys as I have done it, but that centre piece you can see in the pis is welded to the body. It does have a tab at the top and bottom so I suppose you could pop rivet it with good quality stainless steel rivets.
You will then need to take the seats out to drill the holes to install the red pins through.

I'll try and find a pic of mine.

30westrob 04-13-2018 04:55 PM

Why not just put the OEM type straps back in. Rob

sabeo.m 04-13-2018 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 30westrob (Post 10000853)
Why not just put the OEM type straps back in. Rob



Agreed- very easy to do. I replaced mine.


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Jameel 04-13-2018 05:43 PM

I made new straps with scrap leather, some dye, and new snap parts from the fabric store. Part of the snap can be reused. Fun, easy project that makes you feel good when it's done, and it will look totally stock.

canamfan 04-13-2018 05:56 PM

Totally agree with the others for using OEM straps, simply factory cleverness that works like a charm

kavadarci 04-13-2018 06:17 PM

Mine were bone dry and broke. Local shoe repair shop made two new for 20 bucks.

HarryD 04-13-2018 07:05 PM

I decided to go with Velcro Straps to hold my seats up.

Montreal911 04-13-2018 07:08 PM

thanks for the posts gents! i think i'll use an old leather belt to do my own 'OEM' :)

anyone has a handy picture of what OEM looks like?

macssc911 04-14-2018 05:38 AM

Check I believe our host sells the straps

HarryD 04-14-2018 09:58 AM

Sierra Madre Collection has them. Part number 911.522.063.00

85911 04-14-2018 11:03 AM

rear seat straps
 
I make mine and here's a link to the posting.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/917155-rear-seat-straps.html

One suggestion I had is to make sure you use thick enough leather. The liquid stain made mine almost elastic therby changing their original shape.

69porsche 04-19-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoideas (Post 10000767)
You can install the red button doovilackys as I have done it, but that centre piece you can see in the pis is welded to the body. It does have a tab at the top and bottom so I suppose you could pop rivet it with good quality stainless steel rivets.
You will then need to take the seats out to drill the holes to install the red pins through.

I'll try and find a pic of mine.

Where you able to find a photo and do convert your car to have these red latches hold up the seat?

psychoideas 04-19-2018 07:58 PM

OK, here are the pics.
I remembered incorrectly because it has only one tab but I'm sure you can fit it up if you really wanted to.

As you can see, you can use this piece to locate the holes you need to drill in your seats for the pins.

Let me know how it goes.


Part No 911 501 041 00

It's been superseded to a new part number but just follow the trail and make sure you are sitting down when you check the price. :eek::eek:


extra parts needed.
91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

99952310602 washers
N0141338 screws that hold it all to the rear seat.

These are old numbers but you'll still be able to find them from these.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg

69porsche 04-20-2018 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoideas (Post 10008618)
OK, here are the pics.
I remembered incorrectly because it has only one tab but I'm sure you can fit it up if you really wanted to.

As you can see, you can use this piece to locate the holes you need to drill in your seats for the pins.

Let me know how it goes.


Part No 911 501 041 00

It's been superseded to a new part number but just follow the trail and make sure you are sitting down when you check the price. :eek::eek:


extra parts needed.
91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

99952310602 washers
N0141338 screws that hold it all to the rear seat.

These are old numbers but you'll still be able to find them from these.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1524196235.jpg

Did you have to modify the actual seat components or was it plug and play?....I understand the center part is modified from earlier production years and had to be welded /bolted in to retain the seats in the upright position

psychoideas 04-20-2018 03:57 PM

Yes, the seats have to have 3 holes drilled in them each. One for the pin. and two for the mounting screws.
Very easy to do. The bracket has the new seat hinge pin welded into it. So, out of the car, you put the seat onto the hinge pin of the new bracket, and mark the lock pin hole location through the new bracket and onto the seat frame. That way you are sure of it lining up.
Then two 5mm clearance holes need to be drilled through the seat frame to hold the lock pin mechanism to the seat.

The hardest part is installing the new bracket.

P.S. In Australia we are not allowed to use the leather strap. Seats must be positively locked in an upright position. Since the early 70's so it seems

69porsche 04-22-2018 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychoideas (Post 10009474)
Yes, the seats have to have 3 holes drilled in them each. One for the pin. and two for the mounting screws.
Very easy to do. The bracket has the new seat hinge pin welded into it. So, out of the car, you put the seat onto the hinge pin of the new bracket, and mark the lock pin hole location through the new bracket and onto the seat frame. That way you are sure of it lining up.
Then two 5mm clearance holes need to be drilled through the seat frame to hold the lock pin mechanism to the seat.

The hardest part is installing the new bracket.

P.S. In Australia we are not allowed to use the leather strap. Seats must be positively locked in an upright position. Since the early 70's so it seems

Much appreciated! I like the idea of having the rear seats in the upright position at times but I am not keen on the leather straps. Cheers

mxtx 04-01-2023 05:17 PM

Did anyone manage to get this done? Thinking about converting my '85 to lock upright as well now that I have a kid as well. Am I understanding this right?

ONE of these as the center piece:

91150104102

TWO of each of the other pieces to work on either side:

91152222900 pins
91152223300 springs
91152223100 red knobs
91152222701 frame that holds it all together

Correct?

A lot cheaper than upgrading to an actual 964...


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