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Every car is different and so is every type and brand of tire. Some 9's fit no issue with 255's and some need the lips rolled. The 9's on the '87 red Carrera pictured below fit just fine, the green/gold '76 Carrera had to be rolled on the driver's side only as the sides are not perfectly symmetrical. Lots of variables but nothing that is a show stopper.



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Bill Verburg, some nice 3.2s and SCs, will any EuromM fit on my 964?

BTW the Redline Fuchs in pieces were mine.
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No need to roll fenders for me... 255s and 17x9 rears.
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Bill Verburg, some nice 3.2s and SCs, will any EuromM fit on my 964?

BTW the Redline Fuchs in pieces were mine.
Euromeister doesn't make wheels w/ the correct ET for 964.

Braid BZ are available, Fuchs look w/ custom ETs
8.5 ET48 w/ 235/40 x17
10 ET51 2/ 275/35 x17 would be a maxed fitment for a 964
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I'm really liking the way the 225 tire fits on the 8" front wheel....... doesn't look pinched at all.

Just in time for winter storage, I had a chance to fit the widened to 8" fronts with the 225 tire. With the strut tops about 3/4 of the way in towards max camber, new offset balljoints (which move the bottom of the strut out by about 1/4") and a 12mm spacer, the wheels fit pretty much like the 7" wheels with the 215 tires.

I had a minor rubbing event when I hit a big dip and bottomed the front - I had to further roll a section of the left fender to prevent this. The right fender is either not original to the car or has been repaired and seems not to be a problem.....

keep in mind a few things - my spindles are raised 40mm, and I cut the Bilstein bumpstops to 2/3 original length, and I also have the shorter strut seal holders from Elephant. Plenty of travel with this setup so it tends to rub a little more severely than other setups.

Sorry for the crappy pic.

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Every car is different and so is every type and brand of tire. Some 9's fit no issue with 255's and some need the lips rolled. The 9's on the '87 red Carrera pictured below fit just fine, the green/gold '76 Carrera had to be rolled on the driver's side only as the sides are not perfectly symmetrical. Lots of variables but nothing that is a show stopper.
All true to an extent

It's a very rare SC/Carrera that would have an issue w/ 9ET15 255/40 x17,(and usually because of some alignment or damage issue) Here's where the issues arise, use a taller tire even in the same width, say 9x16ET15 w/ 255/50 x16, The extra ~1" of height exponentially degrades the fitment ease.

255/40 x17 on 9.5 ET19, no fitment issues including ride height


Same wheels 275/40, these are a max fitment, oil lines relocated, suspension hardware trimmed, ride height compromised. The tire f/s is ~4.5" and b/s is ~6"
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Euromeister doesn't make wheels w/ the correct ET for 964.

Braid BZ are available, Fuchs look w/ custom ETs
8.5 ET48 w/ 235/40 x17
10 ET51 2/ 275/35 x17 would be a maxed fitment for a 964
You could get a 7" front and 8" rear set widened to fit a 964 and get the offsets you need at the same time.

Obviously wouldn't be cheap but still economical overall. You'd have a unique set of wheels and it would look great.
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You could get a 7" front and 8" rear set widened to fit a 964 and get the offsets you need at the same time.

Obviously wouldn't be cheap but still economical overall. You'd have a unique set of wheels and it would look great.
That may be fine(can cast wheels even be welded up?) if you are ok w/ welded up wheels, I'm not.

I'd avoid welded up wheels and spacers where ever possible
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Looks like Maxilite wheels are available and no material difference between them and Euromeisters other than grooves on the lips. May be the way to go for me.
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That may be fine(can cast wheels even be welded up?) if you are ok w/ welded up wheels, I'm not.

I'd avoid welded up wheels and spacers where ever possible
Bill, what abut these, shipped fro 100 bux to the us

https://www.design911.com/Porsche/964--911--1989-94/Fuchs-Wheels-17-/pt72_1679_-cma81-cmo107/
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I know nothing about them other than they look to fit and are on the narrow side

The same outfit sell custom Fuchs lookalikes which appear to be the same Brais wheels sold here
Custom Fuchs look alikes

for 911 I'd want 8 ET28 & 9.5 ET19

for 964 the
8ET52 & 9.5 ET47

or

8.5 ET48 & 10 ET51
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I know nothing about them other than they look to fit and are on the narrow side

The same outfit sell custom Fuchs lookalikes which appear to be the same Brais wheels sold here
Custom Fuchs look alikes

for 911 I'd want 8 ET28 & 9.5 ET19

for 964 the
8ET52 & 9.5 ET47

or

8.5 ET48 & 10 ET51
You can cram 10s on a NB 964??
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My SC on euromeisters. No problems.
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You can cram 10s on a NB 964??
yes
exhibit A, A beautiful 964 built by Dan J, 8 & 10x18 245/35 & 275/35 tires



another nicely prepped 964 8.5 & 10 245/35 * 275/35 x17


Don't get me wrong, the more tire and wheel the more fitment issues will rise up

7 & 9 is an oe fit, a is 7.5 & 9 & 8 & 9.5 was used on Cups
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yes
exhibit A, A beautiful 964 built by Dan J, 8 & 10x18 245/35 & 275/35 tires



another nicely prepped 964 8.5 & 10 245/35 * 275/35 x17


Don't get me wrong, the more tire and wheel the more fitment issues will rise up

7 & 9 is an oe fit, a is 7.5 & 9 & 8 & 9.5 was used on Cups
Sorry, I know this has been thrashed already but I was under the impression the et had to be 55. so even if I got 7.5 or 8 inch fronts and 10 inch rears, the ET had to be 55. Is that not the case?
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Sorry, I know this has been thrashed already but I was under the impression the et had to be 55. so even if I got 7.5 or 8 inch fronts and 10 inch rears, the ET had to be 55. Is that not the case?
ET is a fixed datum until you get to the max fitment regime

as ET goes down numerically the wheel moves outboard and vice versa, for smaller widths there is some room for play, the wider the wheel and taller the tire the less wiggle room

on a 964
oe fits are
front
6ET55 x16, 7ET52.3 x16, 7ET55x17, 7.5 ET55 x17, 8ET52 x17 , 8ET52 x18

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8ET52 x16, 9ET52.3 x16 8ET52 x17, 9ET55 x17, 9.5ET47 x17, 9.5ET47 x18
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Found this pic and thought others might find it interesting - one the left, my latest rear setup which is a 255/40-17 RE71R on a 9" wheel, and on the right is a 245/40-17 Dunlop ZII on an 8" wheel. I never really thought the 245 on the 8" looked pinched until I looked at it side by side with the 255 on the 9".

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Looks like Maxilite wheels are available and no material difference between them and Euromeisters other than grooves on the lips. May be the way to go for me.
Yes, the barrel grooves and whatever the Chinese version of TUV approval is.
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Interesting data point for fitment if anyone is interested, RUF wheels for the Carrera:

(Ruf used 215 front, 235 rear, tires on these).

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Try that pic again:

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