Zymol question
 

I have always thought that zymol was a very expensive and very good quality wax. I was at the local auto parts store the other day and saw some on the shelf for $4 or $5 bucks...

What gives???

Do they have a cheap version of there good stuff?

I think it was called "polish/wax."


Fig

You mean the blue bottle stuff? I used up the one I bought on our Detriot Iron, but not going to buy another. IMHO, Meguires, Mother's Cali gold, and a host of others work as well, if not better...

I have some of the cheaper Zymol wax, it's not bad. Not the best wax out there, but it does shine much, much, much better than the Meguire's carnuba cleaner wax I have. That stuff is junk. It lasts about two weeks and the shine sux and it doesn't hide fine scratches. Anyone want a slightly used can of the stuff? I won't even use it on my white pick up. I tried a side by side comparison between the two waxes and the zymol was the obvious choice hands down.

I haven't tried the Meguire's non cleaner type wax, it might be better, I can't say.

Anyway, the zymol does a pretty good job of hiding fine scratches (on black paint) and has a much deeper shine that most. It is a pain because if you don't get it on evenly it will show dark streaks. It's easy to apply, but you have to get it on evenly. I think it is because it has a little oil in it. it seems to last a couple months at least. The dark shine (on black paint) starts to fade slightly after about a week or two, again probably due to the oils evaporating.
unless you are into concours it is a good value.

From what I've heard, the blue stuff isn't the real thing, but made by turtle wax.

Yes, it is often called "Zurtle" wax. The spendy Zymol may look good but is said it will not last for more than a week unless you keep the car in a museum.

Xymol used to make a decent wax in a bottle available in stores, but now all you can find is the cleaner wax, which I think is mildly abrasive so I wouldn't use it often. The only good Xymol is the expensive stuff in the small containers...

Hooray, a car wax thread. Can spring be far behind? I hope not.

BTW, I use Klasse; and the cheap Zymol is NOT the same as the spendy stuff.

Jerry M
'78 SC

Yep, spring is about to spring...and Sammy G is right, I'm really a novice when it comes to wax jobs...I only work with decades old paint...

I used Zymol on my black car, what a pain in the arse!!

I then bought a bottle of that 3M stuff (Imperial Glaze) everyone swears by on the board--works really well, but still a pain in the arse! Then I bought the Mother's Cali Gold, Easy on, Easy off, but it does not last long. So now it is the 3M Imperial Glaze when I have some real time and then Mother's inbetween.

I am always open to suggestions, especially by owners with black cars since they are the true challenge.

I know it's a little more $, but I use the Groits Garage brand of polishes & waxes. A little of their Speed Shine after a wash job and, and the wax holds up a good for 4 months.

Which supplier does Griots relable?

Heck, ANY wax is better than none..

Well, while we are at it...which wax is best for the P-car???

oh well ill flick a booger on my car and make it shine........ J/K

Zymol, and Malms are popular.... and you cant go wrong with meguiars

My recipe: wash with good soap, 3M imperial hand glaze, followed by P21S Concours caranuba wax

Hold on there pwd72s, I never called anyone a novice, I never said anything about anyone. I compared the cheap Zymol to the Meguires carniba cleaner wax after I did a side by side test on my car. I even put in a disclaimer that I've never tried Meguire's top of the line wax so I don't know how well it works.
no offense was meant, so please don't take it.
While were on the topic of waxes, a friend of mine suggested a product called one grand blitz or something like that. Ring a bell?

BTW, I also use a product called 3M Perfect-it. Very good stuff. Mild enough to not take paint off (much) but it really makes teh black paint look deep. Also a PITA to use but the results are good.

I've used the Zymol paste that smells nice and comes in a nifty little clear container with the o-ring seal in the past. I think its kinda like fancy doggy treats...they make it look tasty for humans (cause' you're the one buying it for the dog). It leaves a nice deep shine, but I didn't find that it holds up particularly well to day in day out driving, and its a pain in the a-- to put on...you're suppose to put it on and take it off before it dries...I found it got "pilly" on me and I put more fine scratches in the paint trying to get this stuff off or spread evenly. I also don't buy into Zymol's "care and feeding" of your paint crap. I'm no polymer chemist, but I think keeping your paint contaminant free and protected with anything is more important than smearing it with "blends of banana and coconut extracts". Last time I checked I saw a lot of stuff I couldn't pronounce in PPG paint, but fruit extracts weren't one of them.

I use "Super Glaze" made by the wax shop available at Pep Boys. Easy on, easy off, great shine.

-BG :D :D

Sammy, sorry if I overreacted...one grand blitz wax is a good carnuba based wax, without cleaners added...

Here's some really good info from Car Care Specialties:

http://www.carcareonline.com/viewarticle.aspx?art=9

Try the mequiars, go with the Show Car Glaze (their highest gloss), followed by their Medallian wax (their longest lasting), this was recommend to me at a tech session and seems to work great.