Driver door "CLICKS" when open/closes
 

Loud CLICK heard everytime i open/close the driver door. This click occurs twice in the door's normal arc. Heard this may be a common problem with 911's. Any suggestions on a fix? or what is actually wrong?

Thanks
Mike

You need to look at the hinge of the door. It may broken loose from the door itself. Mine did this and I had to buy the repair kit that you can get right here at pp. You may need to take the hinge pin out to get a good look in there. Just be careful not to let the door swing freely after removing the pin because it will do damage to your door and the front quarter panel.
Hope this helps.


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Jerry
'86 carrera coupe

Sounds like something is definitely binding. Besides the hinges, you might also want to inspect the door "check" assembly. This is the little arm which sits in between the hinges, and is what limits door travel.

-Eric

That sounds like the door check. The pin that attaches the arm to the body should be tight in the hole. When I installed mine it had to be tapped in with a hammer. The other side was a loose fit (worn?) and I can see it pop and hear it click as the check moves past it hold points.

I have the exact same problem on my '87 Carrera. I've looked pretty closely at it and have not noticed anything loose or moving in a strange way. I had a few guys look at it at a tech session and no one really knew what it was -- other than a gremlin. I guess disassembly is the next move.

Mine make a similer clicking noise I found that the door stop mechinism in the door was loose. After tighting the bolts the clicking went away.

here's the fix if the stop is still secure in the door. remove the old pin with a punch, and replace it with a 6mm bolt and nylock nut. tighten enough to bind the arm so it can't snap back and forth. if it snaps in the future, tighten it more. lube the arm too.

[This message has been edited by john walker's workshop (edited 11-05-2001).]

This problem is without a doubt caused by the check pins that are inserted into the door stops. Trust me...I just replaced my door stops and inserted new pins and the problem is gone. If the pin is too small for the hole, or is badly worn, the stops will click(3 times if my memory serves me) upon opening and closing...

Bill

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William Armentrout
1973 911T
2.7 carerra rs specs
www.geocities.com/william_armentrout

I have the same problem and partially resolved it with a small (10mm, I believe) socket that fits on the two small bolts on the door side of the mechanism. Can be tricky to get to. This holds the arm portion that connects with the pin into the frame. The bolts were loose and required tightening. Took away 80% of the noise, but I still have the "less" noisey click where the pin is located. I will try your suggestion John on the 6mm bolt, sounds great! By the way, if you do not fix the problem, this will eventually ruin your door, or so I have been told.

Regards.

Bob
'73.5 T

I've been having the clicking on my driver's side door for some time. Until this discussion I thought the clicking was actually normal. Now that I am aware of it, I think I've discovered the reason for it, at least in my case. I've noticed that the door stop hinge that attaches to the door frame is actually broken away and moves around in the frame area. Does this make any sense? It's not the part of the door stop assembly attached to the door that's
making the click in my case, but the area where the hinge is suppose to attach to the frame. Anybody else notice this? What have you done about it? Is it a big deal?

Yep, my 72' clicked loudly (driver's side)with a new stop mechanism installed. In fact it was worse than before. Upon close inspection yesterday, I found that the door stop mounting area inside the door had actually fatigued and was broken so no matter how tight the nuts on the keeper were, the metal moved and resonated. I think eventually this would have damaged the door beyond repair. I removed the new factory door stop mechanism and installed one from one of my old Toyota Land Cruisers which uses a large rubber stop to dampen the door swing. The end that mounted to the fender, actually had the same bore as the Porsche one, so the modification was only to bend the Toyota one slightly for clearance. I do not have the mid-point stop, but the door will not swing past the normal wide-open position before the rubber stop takes over. I have one more of these Toyota units left, if anyone needs one. I think this is definitely an improvement over the fty. one for a fatigued door.

Jack McAllister

Thanks guys,
The 'check pin' that holds the stop that you're all mentioning..is this accessable without taking the interior door panal off? Can this pin be removed with just the door in the 'open' position?
It looks like the PO used 2 screws to mount the stop check hinge (wrong part?) to the door. If so, if i unscrew these 2 from the door and replace with the correct bolts, do i need to access thru interior door panal?

thanks again
Mike

The "check pin" can be seen with the door open. This is the pin that attaches the arm of the door stop mechanism to the car.

Bill

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William Armentrout
1973 911T
2.7 carerra rs specs
www.geocities.com/william_armentrout

In my 1972 911T the door was making a loud snapping noise, also. I followed advice from the people above and fixed the problem!

It was really quite easy: I removed the door stop clevis pin and replaced it with a Stainless Steel 1/4" X 1/2" clevis pin I bought at the local West Marine. Of course I had to use a small round file to slightly widen the hole in the door stop metal strap. I only filed enough to make an interference fit which required a pin punch to get the clevis pin in. Now, there is no play at the stop pin and consequently no snapping noise!

* I would recommend using the clevis pin as opposed to using a bolt and nut. The Clevis pin is designed to be used in shear applications. The bolt and nut probably puts unnecessary strain on the door stop mount on the car's body. Also, the clevis pin looks original and better suited for the job.

Just my two cents...

I had the same problem in my '76 911. It is definatley the pin. The pin looks like a small sliver cylindrical round pin that keeps the door attached to the body. We used a punch to take out the old pin, and purchased a new pin at a local Porsche salvage yard, put the pin in the freezer so that it would shrink, and used a hammer to pound the pin in the hole.
The clicking is just the result of an old, worn pin.

Matt

Well I'll be...

After reading this string I decided to go out to the garage to check both of my doors for clicking sounds. Can't say that I ever really noticed a sound before, but I figured, what the heck. Might as well check it.

I checked my right door. No sound. I checked my left door. Loud click near the end of the door's travel. I moved the door through the click a few times and finally noticed that it was indeed coming from the little pin in the door stop mechanism. I could actually see it shift slightly as it clicked loudly.

If I remember, I'll fix it tomorrow.

Thanks guys.;)

-Scott

C'mon Mike! You can come up with a better excuse! I know you and the REAL reason behind this thread. You're looking for a way to explain to the wife why you have started to look for that black slantnose turbo!!!!:D

HA HA!

Have a great Thanksgiving!!

Quincy

qc--right on! Carrera door clicks----->need to upgrade to 930S:)

Mike

I love this board--John Walkers advice is (as usual) spot on--one 6 mm bolt and a nylock washer, and no more click.

Plus 1! Maybe even 2 because my wife remarked on what a lifesaver this resource, and the people who contribute, is/are.

Here's a pic of the door stop and the yoke that holds it. I removed the pin to install the 6mm bolt and nyloc.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9686/doorstop1cy3.jpg

In my case, it turns out it wasn't the stop pin. I did the JW fix and it didn't go away. I looked closer and this is what I found.

http://img68.imageshack.us/img68/4108/doorstop2mb4.jpg

This is after only two weeks of clicking. The top bolt is gone and the bottom one is hanging by a thread. Any longer and who knows the outcome? Not good I'm sure. Plus I couldn't STAND the noise. It turns a nice car into a hoopty!

I installed a new 6mm stainless cap screw (because I had one) and washer and using loktite red. I tightened the other one down and Viola!-No click. Smooth as silk. I reinstalled the original clevis seeing as it wasn't the culprit-yet. However, it's good to know how to cure that when the time comes. The whole job took about ten minutes.

The moral of the story is- 911 doors are NOT supposed to click. If it is, you need to address the issue right away or you could do damage to the car.