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5-lug wheels

Hello all of you with 5 lug conversions and stock fenders (no flares), could you please tell me what type (fuchs, phone dials, etc) and size wheels you are running. I am seriously thinking about the conversion hoping that I can fit 16x6 fuchs under my stock fenders. The reason for the conversion is to have the 16 inch wheels so that I can have a better performance tire on the wheels.
I thought I read somewhere that the 16's do fit. I am currently running 2.0l alloys with 205/60/15 without clearance problems in the rear.
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I recently converted my 1974 914 to five-lug Fuchs wheels (15X6). I installed Bridgestone RE71 205/60-15 tires and they fit perfectly. The key dimension is the backside spacing. Place a straight piece of material on the back edge of the rim and measure the distance to the surface with the bolt holes. If it is about 4 7/8 inches you should be fine. Most Porsche wheels have that backside dimension. I recently looked at a set of 6 X 16 Fuchs wheels and they had that dimension.
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I'm running the 5-bolt, 15x6 Fuchs Windmills with 205/60-15s. A friend of mine had to 1-up me and run special 5-bolt 16x6 MOMO's (the ones with the paint-able spoke inlays) with 205/55-16s.

His 914 just manages to pass the fender well tolerance test. A shop in my area says they can flair/stretch the front & rear fender lips out so I can run a 15 or 16x7 rim with slightly wider tire (215-225, depending on the amount of flair). They did it to a 914 autocrosser and the results are very tempting. ANYTHING to avoid those 916 flairs (yuck!).
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Several 914 autocross cars in the San Diego area have the stretch done to the fenders so they can run 7x17 wheels and 9x20x15 Goodyear slicks. Very tight still but it is hard to tell it is done unless the car is right next to a stock fendered car. Mine had it done by the previous owner and it works great. Of course it would be pretty close to impossible to undo it once it is done and make sure there are no ripples in the metal since it is done with hammers and dollys.

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I have a 5 lug setup with Fuchs 16x6 front, and 16x7 rear, running Dunlop W-10 195/50-16 front, and 205/50-16 rear. The rear are close on the passenger side but no rubbing.
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I converted a '74 2.0 to 5 lugs and fitted a set of ROH ZR-6 16 X 7 wheels. This wheel has a 46mm. offset, and I used one 8mm. spacer in the rear(resulting in the stock 38mm. offset) and 16mm. spacer (two of the 8s)in front to keep the tire from rubbing the strut. The biggest tire I could use with stock fenders was a Nitto Exit, size 195/60 X 16. This gave about 3/8" clearance on each side of the tire in the rear. Remember: Tire carcass widths are based on a nominal wheel width of 6" in this range. For each 1/2" increase in wheel width above this nominal, the tire carcass width will increase by 0.2". That's why a 205/60 X 15 tire will work OK on a Fuchs (5.5 X15)
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I'm running 16x6 front and 16x7 rear Fuchs on my 73 2.0L. With Dunlop 205/55 x 16 D40 tires. Anthough they're close in the back, I've had no clearance problems.

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I've see guy's use a pipe to strech the fenders and quarter panels. I've see the pipe placed at the leading or trailing edge of the wheel opening. as the car is moved the pipe rolls across the panel forcing the panel out as it rolls. This will give you added clearance for wider tires. But be careful.
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I am running 205 X 50 X 16 on 16 X 6 Fuch at the rear and 195 X 50 X 16 at the front.
No clearance problems. The 205's will fit at the front but rub at the A arm at full steering lock on unloaded suspension.
These cars are all slightly different and thus, differing opinions exist.
Happen to have a set of 4 16 X 6 Fuch (no tires)for sale if your interested.
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****Do not use a metal pipe!***
You run the risk of hitting the end of pipe against the inner fender and gouging it. when the car is rolled forward or back the tire will "grab" the pipe and pull it in towards the fender.
Instead use an old wooden bat. Start w/ the handle end. (its smaller in dia.) And if needed use the big end.
I've personally done this to my friends truck and a 914. It does work.
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I'm trying to vision this metal pipe or wooden bat idea... So far I see this.

Put a wooden bat parallel to the tire so that it is pushing on the fender. Then drive.

Well, as you can see my picture is pretty lame. Could one of you care to explain this a little better. Thanks
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