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will cookie cutters fit? 5 lug service?

I have a chance to get some cookie cutters real cheap from a friend of mine to use as a placeholder until I get some nicer rims. I want to have the hubs converted to 5 lug while I am doing the bmw caliper upgrade this winter. Does antone know if the cookie cutters will fit in the stock fenderwell? I believe they are 15x7. Does anyone know of anywhere that will convert the hubs? Can I just take them to a machine shop? I don't trust myself to do them myself.
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Where are you located? It would not do you any good to know of a place in Florida if you live in Wisconsin. Yes the cookie cutters will fit depending on the back spacing.
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Im near detroit.

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You need to make sure they are the correct offset. Our cars use J. Cookies for the 924 and 944 came in H offset and will only fit cars with flares.

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911 Cookie cutters 15x7 can fit your car. The rear may be a little tight if you go w/ 205 tires.
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The cookie cutters are from a 944, I guess I will pass and wait for some c2s, thats what I really want anyway.
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Hmmmmmm

Yeah, you might be able to fit 195's on the H offset without problems.

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BMW calipers on a five-lug setup? Just go 911 front end! Costs "about" the same as the combined BMW and five-lug, and you get better (vented) brakes!

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Yeah...
If your going to go to a 5bolt system, there are cheaper/better options out there than a bmw set up.

cookie cutters came on 911's as 6inch wheels and the 6's will fit stock fenders pretty routinely.

The 944 cookies were 7inches wide with a different offset, and can be made to fit, but I wouldn't put money on it with stock fenders...

I have run both... and a big hammer + welding torch was required to get the 7inchers in there.

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The bmw setup is costing me about $200.00 fir rebuilt calipers, pads and lines, its cheaper and less of a hassle than a whole 911 suspension.
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Thats a good price, but then your still going to have your stock rotors...

the 911 set up gives you vented rotors, plus alluminum hubs, plus the ability to run 5 bolt wheels (if you like them)

Sounds like you have a good plan and have a good buy in the works.... If you plan to later convert to 5 bolt, you can then sell the bmw parts.

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Add the cost of the 5-lug conversion, and you'll probably wind up with something very close to a 911 front suspension cost. And the brakes will be better. Not to mention that, if you just re-drill and stud the stock rotors, you have to re-do the drilling and studding every tine you change front brake rotors.

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I have cookies with the 4 7/8" backset. Where did they come from? Well, I heard some 911s had them stock. They fit the same as the 15 x 7 Fuchs, not much room for 205/50s. Might be alright for 205/60s.
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Mine came with 15X6" cookies from a 911, fit fine with 195/60s. The cookies are for sale, cheap - $250 cdn with centre caps and tires that hold air. Near Toronto.
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Look at the back. If they say 7Jx15 then they will fit fine. The 911 SCs had cookie cutters.

If they say 7Hx15, then they will be pushed out too far and will only fit properly with flares.

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I will sell you a set of 911 front calipers for $100.00. I am not going to use them and they are for the vented rotors.
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Thanks, but Then I need to do buy the rest of the stuff, bmw is still more cost effective. Im not trying to build the fastest, best braking and handling car, just one that is fun and reliable on a budget. I've got just under $4000 invested in my car ( including the donor and conversion to v8) and I would like to complete it for under $6K.
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I don't know about the "H" offset, but the 7J and
6J cookie cutter rims have ~5" backspace, and I
seriously doubt you can fit the 7J with a reasonable
tire on the rear of the 914 stock fender. I use
the 6J cookies (same offset as fuchs) for
autocross and they don't have maybe 1/2" between
the tire and fender.

The 7J will stick out 1" more than the 6J because
the offset it different.

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I had thought that the "J" in the wheel size indicated a wheel with a "safety bead", which every wheel made since the 70s has. Am I wrong about that?

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Dave,

I too.. understood that the J did not indicate offset.
If you pull wheels off of any non porsche car, they will have the J stamped on there too.

I know my ford and honda do..

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